Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

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whtemple1959
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Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

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Hello,
I have a Linux Mint 19
AMD Ryzen 3
32 GB RAM
Radeon RX 570

lets assume I properly installed VirtualBox, the Guest additions properly.
I have created a windows 7 64 bit virtual machine so my son can play roblox.
when starting roblox it errors saying the video card is not adequate.
imagine my surprise when windows did not load a proper driver.
when using the driver downloaded from the AMD website windows states that it recognizes the driver but it is not compatible with the version of windows.
but if I boot into windows the driver works fine.
all of the outdated information from a google search has given me a massive headache.
can some one direct me to a proper tutorial on how to get the windows virtual pc to recognize and use the Radeon GPU?
Thanks
towo2099
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by towo2099 »

Your VM does not have an AMD Graphics Card, so you can't install Radeon Software!
whtemple1959
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by whtemple1959 »

Yes towo2099 the Radeon driver software has already told me there is no Radeon device in the machine, and when I try to use the windows 7 driver update process windows 7 tells me it finds the driver but it is not compatible.
The question is and maybe I was not clear .... how does one go about getting the virtual machine to recognize the GPU? and thus will be able to install a proper driver.
Or ... are you telling me that the folks at Oracle have a product which is not sufficient to the tasks required by the average user?
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by mpack »

whtemple1959 wrote:how does one go about getting the virtual machine to recognize the GPU?
You don't. How can it recognize hardware that doesn't exist? It's a VIRTUAL machine, i.e. a simulation of hardware. The actual hardware or OS of your host PC is not relevant.

You can however enable 3D acceleration in the VM settings, and install the Guest Additions to improve the performance of the simulated graphics hardware.
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

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whtemple1959 wrote:a product which is not sufficient to the tasks required by the average user?
What's the task of an average user, to run a fake computer and expect real results? Then I'm afraid you have to adjust your expectations of what virtualization is, and what virtualization is not.
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by whtemple1959 »

Thanks guys for all of your "advice"
It appears by using KVM I will be able to "Pass" my GPU through to the virtual machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbhUBQdMoJg
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic. ... 1&t=212692
https://davidyat.es/2016/09/08/gpu-passthrough/

About this Tutorial
In recent years a technology called "VGA pass through" has found support in a number of virtualization solutions, including Xen, VMware (commercial), and KVM. VGA pass through means that the physical graphics card is passed through to the guest operating system (e.g. Windows) and uses the graphics driver installed in the guest. This offers native or near native 2D and 3D graphics performance inside the guest OS.

So it simply appears I have been using the wrong virtual machine software.
So it is time to head on out and learn how to use Qemu / KVM on my Linux Mint 19 machine.

Best of luck to all of you
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

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whtemple1959 wrote:Thanks guys for all of your "advice"
whtemple1959 wrote:Best of luck to all of you
Thank you for your "valuable feedback". Good luck to you too...
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by mpack »

Cue him discovering that GPU passthrough makes it unavailable to the host. Good luck on your quest for knowledge pal.
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

Post by whtemple1959 »

:D
Still flaming me.
I did not want to write a dissertation on the situation but here it goes.
My 10 year old son wants to play roblox with his friends.
I prefer a more stable platform that is why we use Linux.
When I built his pc I opted for a less expensive cpu so the Ryzen 3 came with a Vega 3, then I added a in-expensive yet capable Radeon RX 570.
Yes when I started My journey a month ago I had no idea what I was doing, but I knew with a little time and effort I would find an expert to guide me.
I am an "out of the box" kind of guy so I was very confused why the gpu was not recognized in VB.
And for several days I was asking all the wrong questions.
But, alas if one keeps making queries using different phrases they are bound to find some one to put them on the right track.
Yes I know that I have to dedicated the Vega to my son's general duties, I have even learned that I will need to create a Linux VM to utilize the RX 570 for Linux games.
The real question is why are guys who have been working with VMs for 5, 9, and 11 years publicly abusing and intimidating a guy who has been attempting to self-teach himself for only a few weeks?
Instead of trying to publicly belittle me you should have taken me by the hand and guided me to a successful solution.
So the next time some confused soul stumbles into your playground play nice and help the guy.
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Re: Native GPU configured in windows 7 guest

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whtemple1959 wrote:So the next time some confused soul stumbles into your playground play nice and help the guy.
Sure. As long as that next guy doesn't come back with sarcastic comments for our "advice" and their solution is to tell us that we're not good enough and they're moving on to something else.

BTW, I feel that you'll find a dual-boot setup much more useful for your situation. That's what I've been doing when I want to play Tomb Raider...
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