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Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 26. Apr 2019, 15:47
by vlad557776
Hello.

I was trying to install Windows 3.0 MME (Tandy OEM) on VirtualBox.

I can't get it to work. No matter what DOS version I'm using, what configuration I'm using, I'm always getting some sort of errors. Here's some of it:
Setup crashes while switching to graphical installation;
Setup graphical installation is glitched a lot (that's a driver problem, I need to use other driver than Paradise VGA 256 colors);
Windows crashes while booting (goes back to DOS);
CPU Error: incorrect opcode while booting into Windows
Hangs at Windows 3.1 logo (what the hell? why there's 3.1?)
DOSBox only: glitched, but something usable; unusable mouse;

I found 2 of Windows 3.0 MME copies, but they are all Tandy OEMs, one of the disks contain Setup and a folder called MMTANDY (all executables want MS Windows), second has some software, Windows and same MMTANDY.

Can someone help me?

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 26. Apr 2019, 16:01
by mpack
There is no guarantee that the Tandy OEM version will work on non-Tandy hardware, particularly when it comes to graphics cards. I assume the original would have been preinstalled or come on a stack of floppies, so this predates the time when the install media was essentially infinite (compared to the actual install set) and you could afford to bundle irrelevant hardware drivers.

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 26. Apr 2019, 16:05
by vlad557776
Is there any way to bypass this? Maybe there's NOT-Tandy OEM somewhere, I just can't find it...

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 26. Apr 2019, 17:04
by mpack
I'm not sure what you're asking to override. The Tandy OEM install will be intended for Tandy hardware, and probably not even include drivers for non-Tandy hardware.

What is it you're trying to do? If you have a Win16 app you want to run then it should be possible to run it in a normal, supported, XP VM.

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 26. Apr 2019, 17:05
by vlad557776
Okay, so there's no way to bypass this. Maybe there's NOT Tandy OEM somewhere...

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 27. Apr 2019, 21:44
by socratis
vlad557776 wrote:I was trying to install Windows 3.0 MME (Tandy OEM)
vlad557776 wrote:Hangs at Windows 3.1 logo (what the hell? why there's 3.1?)
Yeah, exactly! What are you trying to install and where did you get it from? I hope it's not one of those "museum" sites... If it is, don't bother posting the link, it will be deleted.

As mpack said, custom-made OEM installations have a really high degree of failure, mainly because you're not "installing" the OS on the OEM hardware, you're installing it on a generic hardware...

I'm having an urge of marking this as NotSupported...

Re: Windows 3.0 MME Problems

Posted: 28. Apr 2019, 16:20
by vlad557776
I had 2 copies. One copy was downloaded from WinWorld and second from old-dos(a big Russian archive site).