Windows 1.0 not booting

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Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by vlad557776 »

Hello. I installed MS-DOS 6.22 on virtual machine. When I try to boot into Windows, I got loading screen, but after this screen I got a bunch of trash characters. Can please someone help me?
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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vlad557776 wrote:I installed MS-DOS 6.22 on virtual machine. When I try to boot into Windows
I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. You installed DOS and you try to boot into Windows? What does that even mean???
vlad557776 wrote:but after this screen I got a bunch of trash characters
Do you have a screenshot so we know what we're talking about?
vlad557776 wrote:Can please someone help me?
Not unless you start giving detailed (really detailed) information about what you did, how you did it, what you were expecting, so on...

Remember, this is not Twitter. You can (and you should) expand on your description, there's no 140 character limit... ;)
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by vlad557776 »

I installed MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 1.0.

At first, I created a virtual machine with name MsDos6. I allocated 32 MB of RAM and 100 MB hard drive. Hard drive was in .VHD format.

Then, I installed MS-DOS 6.

After it, I installed Windows 1.01.

Then, I typed WIN in MS-DOS and get at first, normal Windows loading screen, but after, I got a bunch of trash characters (It's on screenshot).
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Something is corrupted with the guest... I'm not sure how this is a VirtualBox problem to tell you the truth. Where on earth did you get Windows from? Can you verify the checksums?
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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I got Windows from this site: enderman ch/software/ (insert dot)

Can someone tell me where I can check checksums???
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by mpack »

Windows 1.0 wasn't an OS, it was an installable GUI for DOS apps - and largely ignored at the time, so good luck finding any software for it!

So yes, first you install DOS, configure an extended memory manager, then you insert the Windows 1 disk and run the installer exe.

There is also a question of what graphics standard the software expects, and whether VirtualBox provides it. According to Wikipedia, Win 1.01 supported CGA, EGA and Hercules graphics. I frankly don't know if VirtualBox supports those old standards - they certainly won't be well tested.
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Still questions: where can I get this extended memory manager?
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by Martin »

What you are seeing is the effect of having no compatible (virtual) graphics card. So Windows 1.0 cannot display graphics in this environment.
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Is there any way to fix it?
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Provide the source code changes to emulate CGA, EGA or the Hercules graphics cards? Can't think of any other way...
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Well, easier?
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

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Do you think that if we knew, we wouldn't be telling you after this whole back and forth? :roll:
Apparently no one around here has ever had the need or the desire to install Windows 1.0.
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by Martin »

Maybe you can have some success when using DOSBox instead of VirtualBox:
https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?sh ... 1&letter=W
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by vlad557776 »

DOSBox? I tried it. Windows 1.0 is working, but command prompt is very reduced: it lacks even help command. Only command I managed to get working is dir. So that's why I'm trying to get a normal Windows 1.0 machine.
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Re: Windows 1.0 not booting

Post by andyp73 »

Based on the Windows 1.0 and Windows 2.0 Wikipedia information then it wasn't until Windows 2.0 that VGA support was added. As has already been said, without that I think you will struggle with getting it to work in VirtualBox.

Other than nostalgia (which is mostly overrated) why do you want to install Windows 1.0? I can't see anything in it that would in anyway enhance my day / life!

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