The upcoming Photoshop (CS4) will be VBox incompatible?

[Spyros]

Hello all.

According to many sources, (e.g. TG Daily) the new version of Photoshop and possibly the entire Creative Suite will use hardware based graphics and physics acceleration!

As far as I know, the current version of VBox is incapable is supporting hardware 3D acceleration. Does this mean that CS4 will run in degraded mode or even... won't run, at all?

[hege]

Hello all.

According to many sources, (e.g. TG Daily) the new version of Photoshop and possibly the entire Creative Suite will use hardware based graphics and physics acceleration!

"New version" is just speculation.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/05/oct_1.html

As far as I know, the current version of VBox is incapable is supporting hardware 3D acceleration.

Right.

Does this mean that CS4 will run in degraded mode or even... won't run, at all?

I guess there aren't any Adobe technicians reading this board? How can anyone answer it without knowing the exact way PS would be using the hardware.

Seriously, for serious Photoshopping, you shouldn't virtualize.

[Spyros]

"New version" is just speculation.

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/05/oct_1.html

That's true, but also not.

J. Nack didn't deny that the new Photoshop will be (or just support) GPU powered. Indeed, he said nothing is granted and that the demonstration of this new technology doesn't mean that it will find its way to the final product. But he neither said that it won't.

Right.

Left! Just kidding.

I guess there aren't any Adobe technicians reading this board? How can anyone answer it without knowing the exact way PS would be using the hardware.

Seriously, for serious Photoshopping, you shouldn't virtualize.

I guess they're not.

But the reason that makes most of us virtualize, is this; we need some specific Windows-only application under GNU/Linux.

There may be some enthusiast that collects and test-runs abandoned OSs, but the majority isn't virtualizing for a hobby. And the professionals, (e.g. web-hosts) would never rely on open source software with no support guaranteed for their business. They'll opt-in for the commercial solutions like Virtuozzo.

[hege]

But the reason that makes most of us virtualize, is this; we need some specific Windows-only application under GNU/Linux.

There may be some enthusiast that collects and test-runs abandoned OSs, but the majority isn't virtualizing for a hobby.

Please tell me what kind of professional needs only some specific Windows-application like Photoshop, but needs Linux software otherwise?

If you are just editing for fun, you don't need serious power. You could even run (older) Photoshop in Wine. Or just use Gimp.

Another funny thread was someone asking if Autocad worked in VBox. Now tell me a professional that would use Autocad in a virtualization window and why? Ok, I'm not an architect, but I doubt they generally run Linux.

Just Dual Boot if you want such demanding software to work or buy another PC. And notice that I'm just talking about specific software that wants specific access to hardware etc. I think it's fine to run "heavier" applications virtualized.

I'm sure in few years things are more advanced and everything is virtualized with ease, including GPU access.

And the professionals, (e.g. web-hosts) would never rely on open source software with no support guaranteed for their business. They'll opt-in for the commercial solutions like Virtuozzo.

What's this got to do with anything? Professionals are more than able to run open-source things like XEN without "commercial support".

[aemau]

The answer to your question appears to be yes and no. I've been playing around with a leaked trial version for the past week. The major problem I've found is one that has been widely reported for non-virtualised systems. Namely that as the cursor size is increased the arc of the cursor gradually disappears until the cursor disappears entirely. On my system, holding down the right mouse button will make it reappear but only as long as the button is held down. The consensus appears to be that this is a graphics driver problem and those with this problem are told to upgrade their drivers. This problem makes CS4 difficult but not impossible to use. Perhaps the official release of the trial will resolve the problem but I doubt it.

Allan

[Murz]

I have found a topic in Adobe forum about this problem:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/426255;j ... t=0#426255
They says that virtualbox driver says that it is not compatible with OpenGL.