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Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 30. Dec 2015, 22:13
by Snurresprett
Main PC:

Win7 x64
8 GB RAM
GTX 970
i7 4770K 4.2 GHz

Installed a fresh version of Win 7 x32 in a Virtualbox, installed the guest addon and the Direct 3D thing. Installed Bluestacks with no issues. I can use the virutalbox just fine but when I start Bluestacks it does start but then it keeps loading forever and the virtual PC starts lagging as SPAM_SEARCH and the CPU usage goes up to 100% and stays there. The CPU usage on the main PC is just sitting stable at around 20%. I can't add more cores to the virtual machine...

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Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 30. Dec 2015, 23:22
by Snurresprett
I have enabled virtualization in my BIOS. Still the CPU usage in the virtual PC is 100% and on the main PC it's only 20%. I need to give more CPU power to the virtual PC.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 01:18
by socratis
Are you trying to run a virtualization software inside a virtual machine? If so, keep in mind that nested virtualization is not supported in VirtualBox. Any particular reason why you're not running Bluestacks directly on your Windows host?
Snurresprett wrote:installed the guest addon and the Direct 3D thing
I guess by "guest addon" you mean the Guest Additions, but what exactly do you mean by the "Direct 3D thing"?

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 01:54
by Snurresprett
socratis wrote:Are you trying to run a virtualization software inside a virtual machine? If so, keep in mind that nested virtualization is not supported in VirtualBox. Any particular reason why you're not running Bluestacks directly on your Windows host?
Snurresprett wrote:installed the guest addon and the Direct 3D thing
I guess by "guest addon" you mean the Guest Additions, but what exactly do you mean by the "Direct 3D thing"?
Yes, that's right. 2D and 3D acceleration is checked and I checked the 3D thing during the installation of Guest Additions. It was a checkbox for some 3D (censored)

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 02:09
by socratis
You still didn't answer the first part of my questions...
socratis wrote:Are you trying to run a virtualization software inside a virtual machine? If so, keep in mind that nested virtualization is not supported in VirtualBox. Any particular reason why you're not running Bluestacks directly on your Windows host?

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 03:22
by Snurresprett
socratis wrote:You still didn't answer the first part of my questions...
socratis wrote:Are you trying to run a virtualization software inside a virtual machine? If so, keep in mind that nested virtualization is not supported in VirtualBox. Any particular reason why you're not running Bluestacks directly on your Windows host?
Yes, I am trying to run BlueStacks inside the virtualbox. I want to run multiple Bluestacks instances, that's why I am running it on a virtual machine.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 12:45
by mpack
I see no VM log. With the VM fully shut down, right click it in GUI. Select "Show Log" and save "VBox.log" (ONLY) to a zip file. Attach the zip here.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 19:06
by Snurresprett
mpack wrote:I see no VM log. With the VM fully shut down, right click it in GUI. Select "Show Log" and save "VBox.log" (ONLY) to a zip file. Attach the zip here.
Ok, here it is: filedropper com/win7-2015-12-31-00-32-13

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 31. Dec 2015, 19:17
by loukingjr
you are supposed to attach it to your post. not supply a link. use the upload attachment tab at the bottom of the message area.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 1. Jan 2016, 16:39
by Snurresprett
loukingjr wrote:you are supposed to attach it to your post. not supply a link. use the upload attachment tab at the bottom of the message area.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 1. Jan 2016, 18:15
by mpack
Thanks. The only thing that jumps out at me is that you assign 3 out of 4 cores to the VM. Bear in mind that the VM is a hardware simulation which runs on the host, so if you starve the host of CPU then the VM will run slowly. I'd split it evenly 2:2.

Secondly, if this is a new install then you should be aware that new Windows installations often run slowly for a while, because this is when they are doing a lot of update checking, disk indexing etc.

That all said, if BlueStacks has a big performance issue on some PCs then personally I'd be knocking on the Bluestacks door, not the people who make the PC.

Re: Bluestacks lagging so much it's unusable

Posted: 1. Jan 2016, 18:36
by Snurresprett
mpack wrote:Thanks. The only thing that jumps out at me is that you assign 3 out of 4 cores to the VM. Bear in mind that the VM is a hardware simulation which runs on the host, so if you starve the host of CPU then the VM will run slowly. I'd split it evenly 2:2.

Secondly, if this is a new install then you should be aware that new Windows installations often run slowly for a while, because this is when they are doing a lot of update checking, disk indexing etc.

That all said, if BlueStacks has a big performance issue on some PCs then personally I'd be knocking on the Bluestacks door, not the people who make the PC.
I initially only had 1 core assigned for the VM. Nothing changed when I increased the cores. I have no Windows updates running on the VM.