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Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 3. Jan 2016, 14:49
by mpack
p.s. I think it's about time a VM log was provided: with the VM fully shut down, right click it in GUI. Select "Show Log" and save "VBox.log" (ONLY) to a zip file. Attach the zip here.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 3. Jan 2016, 14:49
by loukingjr
lethal42 wrote:I find that the game I am trying to use on VB (win xp) being warcraft (1) 'Orcs & Humans', behaves poorly under VB, in that it jumps from corner to corner of the display when either one click of mouse or keyboard is moved or used/clicked.
My reply is just meant to address the jumping cursor issue.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 05:40
by lethal42
Hi mpack & loukingjr,
Thanks for the responses.

I will try the mouse intergration option as suggest (thanks loukingjr)...and come back with results.

mpack, it would appear that the 'abnormal' comment has been clarified...yes it is still jumping from corner to corner (mouse or arrow on keyboard). This jumping cursor IS the main issue.

When you say 'GUI'...are you now refering to the Guest machine (as you referred to it earlier)?

The FOLDER I see on the host is labelled 'virtual box' (probably my doing). It has 65 files in it and no mention of windows.
Listed under this folder are a raft of 'windows xp home edition files' (with differing, apparently vmware extensions). Where are the virtual box windows files located...are you saying they are only of the Geust/GUI??

When you say 'If the file is not in this folder or in the C:\<userdoc>\.VirtualBox folder (the latter is used for global config settings) then it isn't VirtualBox data.'..... what FILE do you refer too?

Finally, happy to provide a log, however how can I utilise the GUI (guest?), if it is fully shut down?

This is not getting any easier, for either of us......looking forward to your clarification.

regards

Lethal42

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 06:22
by lethal42
Hi,

Unfortuntely adjusting mouse intergration made no difference to the issue.

Looking forward to your further advises.

regards

Lethal42

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 12:14
by mpack
lethal42 wrote:Looking forward to your further advises.
Before that happens we will need that log file I asked for. I already gave you detailed instructions on how.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 12:28
by lethal42
Hi mpack,

Again is 'GUI" a file.....or a new way to label/call the 'guest' or something else.

Further when you say 'right click it'...what is 'it' ?

I cannot find the file or follow your prior instruction, hence included a clariifcation request in my last full post....and cannot porgress without this.

regards

Lethal42

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 12:41
by mpack
The GUI is the graphical front end for VirtualBox, from which you launch and otherwise manipulate VMs.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 4. Jan 2016, 23:20
by lethal42
HI mpack,

thanks again for response and clarification.

I run virtualbox from a drive (the drive is an external HDD and is only for VM's).

I would have like to attach a word document so that you can see exactly the situation (path structure), but doc and doc files arent allowed.
I have therefore attached 'paint' file of the final screen..which i had to zip as 133kb was too big ?!?!

I cannot see any log file, and when right clicked just see the normal windows options

Are we getting close to what is sought?

Looking forward to your advises...and appreciate your input

regards

lethal42

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 5. Jan 2016, 01:18
by loukingjr
with VirtualBox Manager open, right click on the guest icon, select "Show Log". It's not that hard.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 5. Jan 2016, 01:39
by lethal42
Hi loukingjr,

No it is not that hard (thank you for that).

I did not associate VM Manager being open with...'VM fully shut down'?!

I also now know what was meant by GUI

The file is attached.

Looking forward to your further advises.

regards

Lethal42

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 5. Jan 2016, 11:36
by mpack
Things I see wrong from the log :-
  1. 192MB is pitifully small for an XP VM. It's going to thrash the disk a lot that way. Your host has plenty of RAM so give the guest 2GB (not more).
  2. VRAM is pitifully small at 16MB an XP VM. I would increase this to 64MB.
  3. 3D acceleration is not enabled, which will make graphically based games slower. I'm not sure if that applies here. See the user manual for instructions to install 3D accelerated GAs in an XP guest.

Re: Game stability on VB-XP

Posted: 6. Jan 2016, 10:54
by lethal42
Hi mpack,

Thanks for your response.

I have adjusted the settings in as per your points 1 & 2 (above), & the user manual detail was that 3d accel was optional (and not required) for running dos games in xp...as I read it....having arteady installed the GA's. I re-installed it anyhow.

After a re-boot of the entire system (host and guest) the game continued to react as it had for vitrualbox.
Disappointing.

I doubt now if there will be any positives in re-asking the question about any upside in re-installing win xp or the game?...so looks like I may need to find another VM.

If you have any further suggestions, they would be welcome (of course).

regards

Lethal42