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Hi

I have a macbook early 2008, currently it is running Lion, i need to update this to Mavericks or at least mountain lion, however my mac is too old to update any further. So i want to install Virtualbox into my mac to install mavericks onto it. Is this possible?

Would it be better to install mavericks onto my PC (running a windows vista operating system)? i hesitate with this option because I'm running low on disk space with only 40GB left.

thanks in advance
Ashley

Fulltilt wrote:Hi

I have a macbook early 2008, currently it is running Lion, i need to update this to Mavericks or at least mountain lion, however my mac is too old to update any further. So i want to install Virtualbox into my mac to install mavericks onto it. Is this possible?

the requirements to run Mountain Lion are much the same as they are to run Lion. What is the model of your MacBook? Check "About This Mac". If your Mac can't be updated to 10.9 or 10.8, the chances of running either in VirtualBox is slim to none.

Would it be better to install mavericks onto my PC (running a windows vista operating system)? i hesitate with this option because I'm running low on disk space with only 40GB left.

thanks in advance
Ashley

It violates Apple's EULA to run OSX on non-Apple hardware.

loukingjr wrote:

Fulltilt wrote:Hi

I have a macbook early 2008, currently it is running Lion, i need to update this to Mavericks or at least mountain lion, however my mac is too old to update any further. So i want to install Virtualbox into my mac to install mavericks onto it. Is this possible?

the requirements to run Mountain Lion are much the same as they are to run Lion. What is the model of your MacBook? Check "About This Mac". If your Mac can't be updated to 10.9 or 10.8, the chances of running either in VirtualBox is slim to none.

Would it be better to install mavericks onto my PC (running a windows vista operating system)? i hesitate with this option because I'm running low on disk space with only 40GB left.

thanks in advance
Ashley

It violates Apple's EULA to run OSX on non-Apple hardware.

Hi thanks for your response. The model is Macbook 4,1. I tried updating it through auto updates but there is no update to mountain lion.

The virtualbox is made specifically to run OSX on PC's and windows on MACs. Isn't this what this whole forum and software is about ?

Fulltilt wrote: Hi thanks for your response. The model is Macbook 4,1. I tried updating it through auto updates but there is no update to mountain lion.

unfortunately you do need at least a MacBook 5,1 to run 10.8 or 10.9.

The virtualbox is made specifically to run OSX on PC's and windows on MACs. Isn't this what this whole forum and software is about ?

No, VirtualBox is to allow people to run various OS's legitimately. If you own a retail version of Windows you can run it in VirtualBox, If you own a Mac you can run Mac guests on it. If you want to run Linux, you can run a version on any host.

loukingjr wrote:

Fulltilt wrote:Hi

I have a macbook early 2008, currently it is running Lion, i need to update this to Mavericks or at least mountain lion, however my mac is too old to update any further. So i want to install Virtualbox into my mac to install mavericks onto it. Is this possible?

the requirements to run Mountain Lion are much the same as they are to run Lion. What is the model of your MacBook? Check "About This Mac". If your Mac can't be updated to 10.9 or 10.8, the chances of running either in VirtualBox is slim to none.

If it can't be updated to 10.8, 10.9 why can't I run it in virtualbox, if it can be run in virtualbox on a PC? If virtual box can get around installing 10.8 or 10.9 on a entirely different operating system like windows, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do so on a MAC.

Fulltilt wrote:I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do so on a MAC.

Because you need a machine with a certain level of performance and hardware to run any OS. Even if you could get OSX 10.8 or 10.9 running in your MacBook, it would run very slowly, wouldn't be full screen, the clipboard wouldn't work, among other features, because there are no guest additions for Mac guests. What do you think would be harder to run? Your machine running 10.7 alone or your machine running 10.7 + VirtualBox + 10.8 or 10.9?

Fulltilt wrote:If it can't be updated to 10.8, 10.9 why can't I run it in virtualbox, if it can be run in virtualbox on a PC? If virtual box can get around installing 10.8 or 10.9 on a entirely different operating system like windows, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do so on a MAC.

It's not what VirtualBox can do but what you can legally do with VirtualBox. Apple's EULA says you can only install OS X on Apple hardware (a Mac). Oracle, who develops VirtualBox, frowns on providing information to legally challenged people on how to circumvent the EULA.

So you can get help on these forums for installing Windows and Linux as a guest on any host, and installing OS X as a guest on the Mac host, but you won't get help on how to install OS X on a Windows or Linux host. Capisce?

rpmurray wrote:Capisce?

I'm impressed when someone can spell capisce

Maybe this will help explain. MacBook 4,1 models came with either 1GB or 2GB of RAM. You must have 2GB seeing you are running 10.7. 10.9 or 10.8 require 2GB just like 10.7. If you use 2GB to run Lion, then you need an additional 2GB to run 10.8 or 10.9, not even counting the overhead to run VirtualBox, You would need 4GBs to run both 10.7, your host OS, plus 10.8 or 10.9, at a minimum.

there are other reasons as well.

loukingjr wrote:Maybe this will help explain. MacBook 4,1 models came with either 1GB or 2GB of RAM. You must have 2GB seeing you are running 10.7. 10.9 or 10.8 require 2GB just like 10.7. If you use 2GB to run Lion, then you need an additional 2GB to run 10.8 or 10.9, not even counting the overhead to run VirtualBox, You would need 4GBs to run both 10.7, your host OS, plus 10.8 or 10.9, at a minimum.

there are other reasons as well.

Hi thanks for explaining. I've checked the specs on my Mac by clicking on ABout this Mac:

2.4 GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB Memory 667 MHZ DDR2 SDRAM

It looks like this Mac has 4GB of RAM...yay! (This MAC belonged to someone else previously so they may of had it upgraded with an additional 2GB of memory)

I have 146BG available in storage.

It should be OK to run virtualbox with 10.9 on this MAC right with these specs?

What are the other reasons why I won't be able to run 10.9 on my MAC that you mentioned?

rpmurray wrote:

Fulltilt wrote:If it can't be updated to 10.8, 10.9 why can't I run it in virtualbox, if it can be run in virtualbox on a PC? If virtual box can get around installing 10.8 or 10.9 on a entirely different operating system like windows, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do so on a MAC.

It's not what VirtualBox can do but what you can legally do with VirtualBox. Apple's EULA says you can only install OS X on Apple hardware (a Mac). Oracle, who develops VirtualBox, frowns on providing information to legally challenged people on how to circumvent the EULA.

So you can get help on these forums for installing Windows and Linux as a guest on any host, and installing OS X as a guest on the Mac host, but you won't get help on how to install OS X on a Windows or Linux host. Capisce?

Thanks for answering.

Fulltilt wrote: It should be OK to run virtualbox with 10.9 on this MAC right with these specs?

What are the other reasons why I won't be able to run 10.9 on my MAC that you mentioned?

I have already mentioned several. There is no point in me answering any more of your questions if you aren't willing to listen. I think it's time for you to find out for yourself.

good luck.

loukingjr wrote:

Fulltilt wrote: It should be OK to run virtualbox with 10.9 on this MAC right with these specs?

What are the other reasons why I won't be able to run 10.9 on my MAC that you mentioned?

I have already mentioned several. There is no point in me answering any more of your questions if you aren't willing to listen. I think it's time for you to find out for yourself.

good luck.

Hi, I'm fully prepared to listen. You listed in your previous post some other reasons :

" wouldn't be full screen, the clipboard wouldn't work, among other features, because there are no guest additions for Mac guests."

Then in a follow up post you say:
"there are other reasons as well."

So I was asking what are these other reasons in addition to the ones you have already mentioned.
I read all your posts, and because I did do this, in addition to the reasons you have already listed, there must be 'other reasons as well', otherwise why state this. I'm just politely responding to what you have written.

Fulltilt wrote:I'm just politely responding to what you have written.

yes, you were very polite.