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Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 5. Oct 2013, 23:41
by Kravante
I installed Mint 15 on a windows 7 machine and it wasn't a very nice experience, the CD took YEARS to boot (about 5 minutes), and when it did it ran very slow. Dragging windows around was a pain, and even the mouse was not very responsive.
I already tried with the Cinnamon and KDE versions too (I actually ended up trying the Xfce because I heard it was the least heavy one, and I stuck with it), and they all run as bad, if not worst.
My suspicion is that Hardware Acceleration isn't being used by Xfce, but how can I make sure? I already enabled the option to use 3d hardware acceleration in Virtual Box tho, but saw little change.
Any ideas of what might be wrong?
Thank you in advance.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 5. Oct 2013, 23:46
by Perryg
Post the guests log file (as an attachment)
See
Online Users Manual for the location of the file.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 5. Oct 2013, 23:53
by Kravante
I assume this is the file you're talking about.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 5. Oct 2013, 23:58
by Perryg
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00:00:02.945579 HWACCM: No VT-x or AMD-V CPU extension found. Reason VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED
Enable hardware virtualization in your PC bios and see the improvement.
Edit also update your guest additions to match the version of VirtualBox you are running.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 00:29
by Kravante
Ok, I updated my VB guest and intel virtualization was already turned on. No improvements...
More info:
I installed Windows XP in a VM before with 0 problems. I didn't even had to get the guest additions or make any VM tweakings and it worked fine, I don't think it was in a much older version of VB as well. Why would it be working for windows and not for this?
My VMs memory is 1gb and 10 gbs disk space. The video memory however is only 9 MBs (I just realized this now), can that be a possible cause?
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 00:42
by Perryg
If hardware virtualization is enabled in your PCs bios and you read the error I posted then it must be that you have something else using VMX. Common programs are XP mode or Hyper-V.
Microsoft does not allow anything else to use VMX if its programs are.
Note: I am talking about your host PCs bios
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 00:54
by Kravante
Perryg wrote:you have something else using VMX.
Hmm, maybe that was the cause. I restarted my pc and now it seems to work fine (still a little jaggy, but my PC isn't that best and this IS a VM we are talking about), definitely usable at least. Anyway, thanks for the help.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 01:06
by Perryg
Your PC is good enough to run Mint 15 with ease. I prefer cinnamon but if you stick with xfce your speed should be just fine. As for your CPU
M 370 it's more than adequate to handle the guests. I would suggest that you enable large pages since the CPU has EPT.
Some times the large pages are not set enabled by default. You can post the following and I can see.
From the hosts terminal/command window type
VBoxManage showvminfo <VM Name> --details and post here. Replace <VM Name> with the actual name of the VM.
Use " " if the name has a space in it.
Note if the host is Windows you need to be in the directory that has VBoxManage.exe for the command to work.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 01:20
by Kravante
Here you go, attached. Ill look into the EPT deal since I'm not really familiarized with that.
One thing is still bothering me, why could I run windows XP easily if I didn't do any of these things? Is XP simply less "heavy", or does VB provide other kinds of "synergies" with windows guests on windows hosts?
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 01:33
by Perryg
The info looks fine. The reason for the sluggishness without VMX is due to the Linux kernel optimisation. In older versions of VBox, they tuned every build against the Kernel in 32-bit (software virtualization) mode but that stopped some time ago since almost all PCs have hardware virtualization. XP is probably the only OS that will work halfway reasonable, but it will operate a lot better with VMX.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 01:42
by Kravante
Perryg wrote:without VMX
Wait, VMX? Virtual Machine eXtension, is this it? If yes, where can I get/enable that then? To my understanding what that basically does is allow the guest to use virtualization, right? Is it a host thing or a guest thing?
I'm sorry, but this is something I'm not familiarized with AT ALL.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 01:49
by Perryg
Vt-X (Intel) or AMD-v (AMD) = hardware virtualization or the processor VMX flag.
That is what you turn on in the hosts bios. It should be enabled now but you can post the guests log again to be sure.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 02:00
by Kravante
Alright, there you go, I was just asking since you said that my PC should handle it with ease, even tho it is still a bit jaggy.
I can't find the VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED error in the log this time.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 02:02
by Perryg
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00:00:02.917306 HWACCM: 32-bit and 64-bit guests supported.
00:00:02.917307 HWACCM: VMX enabled!
There you go. Everything is as it should be.
Re: Slow Linux Mint 15 (Xfce) [win7]
Posted: 6. Oct 2013, 02:05
by Kravante
Perryg wrote:
There you go. Everything is as it should be.
Ok good. Once again, thank you for all the help provided.