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Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 6. Aug 2013, 01:54
by MD
Hi,
On Windows-8 host I am using virtual box to run Fedora (guest), after previous discussion (p.s.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56616) over the crash issue I could learn that there is some issue going around my wireless adapter when it connects to work group network only.
To brief the problem:
When I run Vbox in my workplace there are two type of problems that occurs i) either host crashes after sometime cause of which most of the times is ndis.sys or nwifi.sys adapter or ii) the host gets disconnected from the network/limited connectivity. Most important the same laptop and virtualbox works without any hitch when i use it in home network.
I wanted to know is there anybody using Ralink adpater along with virtual box, So that I could figure out whether is it the adapter or something else creating trouble? I am using Ralink RT3290 802.11bgn Wi-Fi Adapter on 64-bit Windows 8.
Thank you.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 6. Aug 2013, 19:17
by OmaSteak
I use an Ralink RT5390R wireless network adapter and it works well for both Windows8 Host 64 bit and Windows XP 32 bit guest. In my experience, even wireless adapters from the same company and of the same model can vary in reliability and maintaining a connection. If one of the very helpful experts on here doesn't have a fix for your issues, wireless adapter cards are relatively cheap and easy to swap in/out. I'd be sure to check on the support forum for the Linux distro you are using to see if it's a widespread issue there too. In previous versions of Ubuntu, there was an extra "driver" required for some Dell installed wireless notebook/netbook cards to function properly. I'm sure one of the experts here will offer you more helpful advice. Good luck!
OmaSteak
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 6. Aug 2013, 20:37
by Perryg
From the hosts terminal/command window type VBoxManage showvminfo <VM Name> --details and post here. Replace <VM Name> with the actual name of the VM. Use " " if the name has a space in it.
Note if the host is Windows you need to be in the directory that has VBoxManage.exe for the command to work.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 04:49
by MD
Thanks Omasteak for your advice, I too surely believe that I will get this problem sorted out by the experts without actually going for changing the NIC.
I'd be sure to check on the support forum for the Linux distro you are using to see if it's a widespread issue there too
I will check the linux forums for the same.
Following is the output generated with
VBoxManage showvminfo fedora64 --details
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"
Name: fedora64
Groups: /
Guest OS: Fedora (64 bit)
UUID: 87220d5c-6c93-44e9-8bbc-2a6fbc689626
Config file: C:\Users\Mohammed\VirtualBox VMs\fedora64\fedora64.vbox
Snapshot folder: C:\Users\Mohammed\VirtualBox VMs\fedora64\Snapshots
Log folder: C:\Users\Mohammed\VirtualBox VMs\fedora64\Logs
Hardware UUID: 87220d5c-6c93-44e9-8bbc-2a6fbc689626
Memory size: 2754MB
Page Fusion: off
VRAM size: 128MB
CPU exec cap: 100%
HPET: off
Chipset: piix3
Firmware: BIOS
Number of CPUs: 1
Synthetic Cpu: off
CPUID overrides: None
Boot menu mode: message and menu
Boot Device (1): Floppy
Boot Device (2): DVD
Boot Device (3): HardDisk
Boot Device (4): Not Assigned
ACPI: on
IOAPIC: on
PAE: off
Time offset: 0ms
RTC: UTC
Hardw. virt.ext: on
Hardw. virt.ext exclusive: off
Nested Paging: on
Large Pages: on
VT-x VPID: on
State: saved (since 2013-08-05T01:37:05.000000000)
Monitor count: 1
3D Acceleration: off
2D Video Acceleration: off
Teleporter Enabled: off
Teleporter Port: 0
Teleporter Address:
Teleporter Password:
Tracing Enabled: off
Allow Tracing to Access VM: off
Tracing Configuration:
Autostart Enabled: off
Autostart Delay: 0
Storage Controller Name (0): IDE
Storage Controller Type (0): PIIX4
Storage Controller Instance Number (0): 0
Storage Controller Max Port Count (0): 2
Storage Controller Port Count (0): 2
Storage Controller Bootable (0): on
Storage Controller Name (1): SATA
Storage Controller Type (1): IntelAhci
Storage Controller Instance Number (1): 0
Storage Controller Max Port Count (1): 30
Storage Controller Port Count (1): 1
Storage Controller Bootable (1): on
IDE (1, 0): E:\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso (UUID: 16913f8f-50e7-4123-8047-7345c70fce9e)
SATA (0, 0): C:\Users\Mohammed\VirtualBox VMs\fedora64\fedora64.vdi (UUID: 83020e5f-2237-44d2-bcaa-86f2bd74c707)
NIC 1: MAC: 08002727F4BF, Attachment: NAT, Cable connected: on, Trace: off (file: none), Type: 82540EM, Reported speed: 0 Mbps, Boot priority: 0, Promisc Policy: deny, Bandwidth group: none
NIC 1 Settings: MTU: 0, Socket (send: 64, receive: 64), TCP Window (send:64, receive: 64)
NIC 2: disabled
NIC 3: disabled
NIC 4: disabled
NIC 5: disabled
NIC 6: disabled
NIC 7: disabled
NIC 8: disabled
Pointing Device: USB Tablet
Keyboard Device: PS/2 Keyboard
UART 1: disabled
UART 2: disabled
LPT 1: disabled
LPT 2: disabled
Audio: enabled (Driver: DSOUND, Controller: AC97)
Clipboard Mode: disabled
Drag'n'drop Mode: disabled
VRDE: disabled
USB: enabled
EHCI: disabled
USB Device Filters:
<none>
Available remote USB devices:
<none>
Currently Attached USB Devices:
<none>
Bandwidth groups: <none>
Shared folders:
Name: 'shared-fedora', Host path: 'E:\shared-fedora' (machine mapping), writable
VRDE Connection: not active
Clients so far: 0
Guest:
Configured memory balloon size: 0 MB
"
Thank you
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 05:20
by MD
One more thing is I have not tried using other network setting in Vbox for the guest (like Bridged network), what do you reckon will that help ?
The main issue is that the network adapter behaves differently in workplace and home wifi network!! So at times I get totally confused about the root cause of the problem.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 14:40
by Perryg
How do you transport this machine between the home and office?
Do you use saved state or do you power the guest off each time and also what about the host, do you hibernate or power that one down as well?
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 22:43
by MD
I am using Vbox in Laptop.
For host majority of the times I hibernate but yes do poweroff as well somtimes.
For guest i will keep it running and save its state and close the Vbox.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 22:57
by MD
MD wrote: the Log file
Thanks noteirak for editing the post and putting the log in an appropriate format, I was unaware of how to put that is why just pasted it.
Cheers
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 7. Aug 2013, 23:52
by Perryg
MD wrote:I am using Vbox in Laptop.
For host majority of the times I hibernate but yes do poweroff as well somtimes.
For guest i will keep it running and save its state and close the Vbox.
Problem with saved state and different networks is they usually don't work properly. Your home network settings are what you are trying to use at your office network. If your office LAN has anyone trying to keep it secure you will notice a lot of issue trying to do it this way. Hotspots and different home networks are usually not as strigent and you may get away with it but I would think it would be iffy at the best. Also the host would need to re-up its adapter settings and that would need to happen as soon as the host wakes.
I have a problem with the guest causing this issue since the host is getting reset, so it would have to be something in the network stack on the host side ( which could include the VirtualBox code ).
I think it is time for you to post a ticket on
bugtracker. Windows 8 is new and there still may be issues, especially with WIFI networks.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 8. Aug 2013, 00:30
by MD
Perryg wrote:
Problem with saved state and different networks is they usually don't work properly. Your home network settings are what you are trying to use at your office network. If your office LAN has anyone trying to keep it secure you will notice a lot of issue trying to do it this way. Hotspots and different home networks are usually not as strigent and you may get away with it but I would think it would be iffy at the best. Also the host would need to re-up its adapter settings and that would need to happen as soon as the host wakes.
I have a problem with the guest causing this issue since the host is getting reset, so it would have to be something in the network stack on the host side ( which could include the VirtualBox code ).
I think it is time for you to post a ticket on
bugtracker. Windows 8 is new and there still may be issues, especially with WIFI networks.
I think I got you.
Yes my office network is kind of secured one.
For now may be I could just try two poweroff (@home) both my guest and host, and then start them freshly in my office just to take a chance (and test my luck!).
I will raise a bug report in the meantime.
Thanks heaps.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 8. Aug 2013, 23:49
by MD
I think it is time for you to post a ticket on bugtracker. Windows 8 is new and there still may be issues, especially with WIFI networks.
I have raised a ticket for the bug (Ticket #12020
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12020#content), hope to get it it sorted out soon.
Thanks
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 9. Aug 2013, 11:13
by michaln
With the information (not) provided, unlikely. Or are you going to send us your laptop and let us onto your network?

Assuming you're not, at a minimum you have to attach minidumps. Without that there's really nothing to look at.
You say you have trouble at the office, but not at home. That is significant. The question is, how is your office network different? IPv6? Jumbo packets? VLANs? Something else? Please add any information you have to the ticket.
There's also some chance the problem is in your NIC's driver. We can't analyze crashes in netr28x.sys at any rate.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 9. Aug 2013, 12:39
by MD
michaln wrote:
With the information (not) provided, unlikely. Or are you going to send us your laptop and let us onto your network?

Assuming you're not, at a minimum you have to attach minidumps. Without that there's really nothing to look at.
Well let me think....No, I am not sending my laptop to you guys.
I am sorry for not attaching the files earlier, now have attached the minidump files to the ticket. One more thing, after initial several crashes, I had refreshed my laptop so earlier dump files are not available with me anymore.
michaln wrote:
You say you have trouble at the office, but not at home. That is significant. The question is, how is your office network different? IPv6? Jumbo packets? VLANs? Something else? Please add any information you have to the ticket.
Well could you please tell me how to identify that difference, so that I can post the exact details for the same.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 9. Aug 2013, 15:21
by michaln
MD wrote:One more thing, after initial several crashes, I had refreshed my laptop so earlier dump files are not available with me anymore.
As long as there's at least one (mini)dump showing a crash in VBoxNetFlt.sys, we have something to look at.
Also it sounds like you can unfortunately generate further crash dumps all too easily... but please try not to do that until we've had a chance to look at he minidumps you provided
michaln wrote:Well could you please tell me how to identify that difference, so that I can post the exact details for the same.
I'd first have to know what the difference is, but then you wouldn't need to identify anything

I was hoping you would know, or could at least ask someone. It sounds like the traffic on your work network is somehow different (somehow unusual), but I really can't tell you how.
Re: Windows 8 crash with Ralink wireless adapter!!??
Posted: 10. Aug 2013, 02:44
by MD
michaln wrote:Well could you please tell me how to identify that difference, so that I can post the exact details for the same.
I'd first have to know what the difference is, but then you wouldn't need to identify anything

I was hoping you would know, or could at least ask someone. It sounds like the traffic on your work network is somehow different (somehow unusual), but I really can't tell you how.
I will try and contact the IT dept., probable by not before Monday due to weekend, or else if i get to know from somebady else before that then will post them.