Suse-12.1 64b Host / XP SP2 guest = VB crashes when XP updat

[Eric.vanH]

Fully updated from widow update,
Fully working, even with USB devices (BlackBerry manager)
MediaMonkey look into auto-mounted "MultiMedia" hard partition for musics
VLC look into auto-mounted "MultiMedia" hard partition for videos

Everything seams fine .... until now as I'm about to load Kaspersky !

Here is the last log before I commit ...

[Eric.vanH]

And here is my first crash since Monday ...

So, definitly, VirtualBox is unable to handle Kaspersky
Not on my machine anyway.

too bad, I kind liked VB :/

[Eric.vanH]

I have now the new release of VB,

Does anyone know how to read the "what's new" thing ? I'm not sure the x.18 will be able to handle an antivirus any better than x.16 ?

Pls let me know if I wast my time trying to get this new release running (I mean: running with Kaspersky) or if I better leave it unprotected like the previous one

Cheers,
Eric

[Perryg]

As I mentioned before it is not that VirtualBox can not handle virus software, it is specifically the one you chose, and is not specific to just VirtualBox. The one you chose does not work well with a virtual environment.

You can search this yourself and see or you can post a ticket at bugtracker to see if yet another patch can be made to allow it to work until it gets broken again.

Or do like most and try a different *free virus software.

[Eric.vanH]

As I mentioned before it is not that VirtualBox can not handle virus software, it is specifically the one you chose, and is not specific to just VirtualBox. The one you chose does not work well with a virtual environment.

You can search this yourself and see or you can post a ticket at bugtracker to see if yet another patch can be made to allow it to work until it gets broken again.

Or do like most and try a different *free virus software.

Weak antivirus doesn't worth installing, right ?
To make it worth spending money on an antivirus, it better be good. Obviously, if I remove some protection or if I set it to the minimum (like the others) it will work.

But in my mind, a software which works very fine on a machine should work fine all the same on a virtual environment which says to be "as the real thing" otherwise, that means the virtual environment is weak, not the other way around.

If I didn't pay for Kasper, I wouldn't be trying to get it running so badly.

So it seams VB (and others as you point it out) is not able to handle demanding software.
I will try in an OSX hosting environment as well as Suse 12 environment on my W700 wich is a quad core, 8GB RAM, to see if it's a matter of resource.

Eric

[Martin]

Kaspersky is using some sw/hw features which don't work well in virtualisation.
Nobody promises that a virtual guest in any virtualisation software works exactly as a physical system where the software has full control over the hardware.
So if some features in Kaspersky software are not programmed cleanly they have to make sure that there software works in every environment they support.
If they don't support Vbox you cannot request from Oracle that they fix other companies problems.

[Eric.vanH]

Kaspersky is using some sw/hw features which don't work well in virtualisation.

hmmm
I see.
Well, actually I don't (but you figured that out) but I know what you mean.

To me, the fact that Kaspersky is so sticky is like wax, the more it stick, the more it get bugs when they land on.
To me, The fact kaspersky is so "heavy" is because it goes deep looking for vermin.

Nobody promises that a virtual guest in any virtualisation software works exactly as a physical system

I thought so
My bad

So I.ll get back to them (I opened a ticket @ Kaspersky side) to ask more about this sw/hw thing

[Eric.vanH]

Oh .... BTW, is there any way to filter the content of what's coming in the VM ?

I mean since I can't use the software I paid for and think is the best (that's just my opinion), Maybe I can use my host to filter what reach the VB, like internet traffic filter ?
Using the NAT, not the Bridge, or defining a specific port for the VB or such ?