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XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 29. Dec 2009, 22:46
by robertomadarang
Hi,

I'm new to VBox and I want to use this for my projects. My Current OS is Windows 7, what I'm planning to do is do all my development on XP (using Visual Studio, dreamweaver, etc) and use th Windows 2008 as web server and SQL server.

My problem is I'm not sure how to do this. Can anybody please point me on the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 00:16
by Perryg
You would use Bridged networking if there is a router in the mix or you would use Host-Only and add a second adapter set to NAT on the guest if you need the Internet on the guest.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 00:54
by robertomadarang
Thanks Perryg. Sorry to be thick. May I ask how to do that? Do I need to set that up on VBOX for each OS? What I did was I've assigned an IP address on the windows XP and create a new Forest using dcpromo in windows 2008.

XP = 10.0.2.16
2008 = 10.0.2.15

the problem is when I ping the 2008 from xp it just timed out.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 01:36
by Perryg
You need to setup the bridged, or host-only in the network settings of VBox for each guest. Have you done that yet?
All of the other things that you can do will just complicate matters for you until you have a working local network.
Do not worry or even think about the rest until the guests and host can all communicate.
Also for now you should shut off all host and guest firewalls. You can turn them back on and set them up once you have two way communications with all network connections.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 02:15
by robertomadarang
Hi Perryg,

Thank you for your patience. I have manage to create the activate directory from Win 2008 and Access the domain from XP. I have logon as one of the domain user from win2008. I have used the Bridge on both xp and 2008. Is there a difference between Host-Only vs Bridge? My Problem now is IIS webserver is not accessible from XP. I can ping Win2008 ip-address from XP. But I can not ping XP ip-address from Win2008. Sorry to be so thick but this is really my first time to set this up. Thankyou so much.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 02:30
by Perryg
Run ipconfig /all on both and paste it here.
If you have a router in the mix you should continue to use Bridged. Host-Only is for those that do not have a router and also for those on laptops that need it to work when on different access points or networks.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 02:39
by robertomadarang
Hi

Sorry forgot to mention the setup. I have a router where my DSL is connected. My Host PC is connected to that router.

Router - 192.168.0.1
MYPC (Win 7) - 192.168.0.5
XP - 192.168.0.10
Win08 - 192.168.0.09

I've used Bridged on both, tried using host-only XP didn't detect the Domain on Win08. The only odd thing I can see is Win08 is showing

DNS Server .........: ::1
127.0.0.1

The other 2 shows the router ip-address.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 03:10
by robertomadarang
Okay after playing around. I have manage to get XP ping the win08. My problem now is Xp cannot access the defult website on Win08. I have given permission to the domain user that XP is using but still show as blank. Oops still can't ping XP from win08

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 03:19
by BillG
This really has nothing much to do with VirtualBox. You should be looking at the requirements for Active Directory.

The DHCP service on a router is not suitable for AD. It will give the clients its own IP address for DNS and act as a DNS proxy to give the clients Internet access. This is not suitable for AD. AD relies on DNS, and all AD clients should use the local DNS _only_. Manually configure the XP client to use 192.168.0.9 for DNS.

The default settings for DNS on the DC that you see are the ipv4 and ipv6 loopback addresses. They are simply telling the DC to use itself for DNS. This works, but I would change it to 192.168.0.9 so that it looks the same as the clients.

If you want the server and/or the AD clients to have Internet access you will need to modify the local DNS server to forward to a public DNS. Do not add add a secondary DNS address to server or client network config.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 03:39
by robertomadarang
BillG wrote:This really has nothing much to do with VirtualBox. You should be looking at the requirements for Active Directory.

The DHCP service on a router is not suitable for AD. It will give the clients its own IP address for DNS and act as a DNS proxy to give the clients Internet access. This is not suitable for AD. AD relies on DNS, and all AD clients should use the local DNS _only_. Manually configure the XP client to use 192.168.0.9 for DNS.

The default settings for DNS on the DC that you see are the ipv4 and ipv6 loopback addresses. They are simply telling the DC to use itself for DNS. This works, but I would change it to 192.168.0.9 so that it looks the same as the clients.

If you want the server and/or the AD clients to have Internet access you will need to modify the local DNS server to forward to a public DNS. Do not add add a secondary DNS address to server or client network config.

Thank you BillG. As you can see I'm not really good in this networking business. I only want to create my own virtual client/server setup to start with my web/software development projects. Honestly, I don't do this as they were already been setup up by the IT guys in our company.

Do you suggest for me to remove the active directory on windows 2008? Can you please suggest any easy way to accompish this? As I have stated I only want to make win2008 as my web server(iis)/database server. and do all my development and testing on windowsxp. An idiot guide would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.


By the way, I log on on the XP as admin and change the primary DNS to the windows2008 ip address but I still can't ping xp from win08.

Re: XP to 2008 (Guest to Guest)

Posted: 30. Dec 2009, 05:28
by BillG
You remove AD just the same way that you installed it - run dcpromo.

If you can't ping the XP machine by name or IP address it is probably a firewall problem.

If you have Windows networking problems, post in a Windows networking forum.