Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

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nickbolton2705
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Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by nickbolton2705 »

I'm running VirtualBox 2.2.2 on Vista, with Ubuntu 9.04 as the guest OS. Graphics wise, it feels very unstable as a whole in comparison to VMware. I'm also having stability issues with Lyx, which weren't an issue on VMware - perhaps there are issues with the graphics driver? I havent had chance to try any other applications, but using the OS, I get issues with menus rendering incorrectly (e.g. only half of a menu will be rendered).

Any ideas? Does this sound like an actual bug? Should I downgrade to an earlier version of Ubuntu? Is anyone else having similar issues?
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by Perryg »

Humm....Strange.
I run Ubuntu 9.04 in 3D and sometimes seamless and the only time I have a problem with the graphics is when I go seamless and forget to turn off the 3D. Can you post the settings for the guest here so we can take a look? Also which desktop are you using on your Ubuntu?
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by nickbolton2705 »

Perryg, thanks for your reply.

I'm using Gnome. 3D accelleration is enabled, should I turn this off? I quite like Compiz (which requires 3D).

What other settings would you like to know?

I have tried reinstalling the Guest additions, as I figured it could be a driver issue... but this makes no difference. By the way, these are the steps I used to install...

1. Installed Ubuntu 9.04 (VirtualBox 3D accelleration off, which is the default)
2. Installed VirtualBox guest additions
3. Enabled 3D accelleration in VirtualBox settings
4. Reinstalled VirtualBox guest additions

Think I should start from scratch but with 3D enabled before installing Ubuntu?

Also, I'm using fullscreen, and I haven't been able to get seamless to work; nothing is displayed, but I dont mind that too much, as I have two monitors, and I have the guest on the 2nd screen.
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by Perryg »

This should work but I wanted to know the video memory that you had assigned to the guest.
I have 512 meg of video memory in my video adapter and have assigned 128 to the guest.
In all actuality though you should only need 16 to 32 meg to get proper performance in Vista.
You really don't need to reload anything for this problem just change a few settings.
You can turn off 3D but as I said I have this working with the exception of when I go seamless. I turn it off then because the graphics tear in Vista with aero while in seamless with 3D on in the guest.
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by Sasquatch »

Ah, you run the Guest on the second monitor. There are some issues with that setup. Seamless for example doesn't work on the secondary monitor. The display gets all messed up. It's possible 3D has the same issue. Run it on your primary monitor and move the rest of your work to the secondary.
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by nickbolton2705 »

OK, on my desktop PC, Lyx and the Ubuntu sounds work fine before I install the Guest Additions. However, after installing and restarting, the sound is glitchy and Lyx has some weird rendering issues (i.e. you can't highlight text properly, etc) and crashes randomly with SIGPIPE.

However, on my Laptop with the same setup, after installing the Guest Additions, there's no problem! The laptop does not have 3D accelleration enabled... so this may have something to do with it, I don't know though.

Laptop:
32-bit CPU (with no Intel VT-x/VMD-V)
Onboard graphics
Onboard sound

Desktop:
64-bit CPU (Intel VT-x)
Quadro FX 1400 graphics card
Sound Blaster Audigy sound card
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by lovelinuxvbox »

i have the same problem on my laptop, i guess that Vbox 2.2.2 was designed to work well with CPU with virtualization tech. My laptop, as your, doesnt support virtualization tech and this version is useless. I tried to install 2.0.8 to get a better performance and it works well but not perfect. :(

may be Vbox team as Windows Virtual PC team, are building the new software only for Virtualization Technologies.

Vmware use Binary Translation and that tech works perfect in computer without Virtualzation tech.

Im a bit confused about this, but im trying to find a convising answer for VBOX on computer without AMD-V/INTEL-VT

see guys :!:
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

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lovelinuxvbox wrote:i have the same problem on my laptop, i guess that Vbox 2.2.2 was designed to work well with CPU with virtualization tech. My laptop, as your, doesnt support virtualization tech and this version is useless. I tried to install 2.0.8 to get a better performance and it works well but not perfect. :(

may be Vbox team as Windows Virtual PC team, are building the new software only for Virtualization Technologies.

Vmware use Binary Translation and that tech works perfect in computer without Virtualzation tech.

Im a bit confused about this, but im trying to find a convising answer for VBOX on computer without AMD-V/INTEL-VT

see guys :!:

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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by afriza »

I am also having problem. My Ubuntu 9.04 shows blank black screen after I login. This happens if

1) I enable 3D acceleration, and;
2) I installed VBox guest additions.

if either of these two is not satisfied, it doesn't happen (for my case).

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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by Sasquatch »

afriza wrote:I am also having problem. My Ubuntu 9.04 shows blank black screen after I login. This happens if

1) I enable 3D acceleration, and;
2) I installed VBox guest additions.

if either of these two is not satisfied, it doesn't happen (for my case).

afriza
Known case. Check the Linux Guests forum for more info. It's possible your Host is not capable of OpenGL. This happens when you use an Intel Onboard Graphics card. Or your host card doesn't support the extensions Compiz uses. Sorry, but you can't use 3D with this.
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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 unstable on VirtualBox 2.2.2?

Post by GeertVc »

Sasquatch wrote:Ah, you run the Guest on the second monitor. There are some issues with that setup. Seamless for example doesn't work on the secondary monitor. The display gets all messed up. It's possible 3D has the same issue. Run it on your primary monitor and move the rest of your work to the secondary.
I don't think it's related to first or second monitor. In my case (VirtualBox 2.2.2 running on Windows XP SP3 host and Kubuntu 9.04 guest), whether I'm running VirtualBox on first or second monitor, I have the same problem when switching to/from seamless mode.

I even have sometimes different display resolutions when checking System Settings | Display. Most of the time, I have "1152x864 (Auto)" available, but sometimes I see "1280x956 (Auto)" as highest display resolution. But whatever I choose, I don't see any improvement (that is, there's no difference between selecting 1152x864 or 1280x956).

If I select one of the highest resolutions and I go to seamless mode, the whole VirtualBox session becomes invisible (the icon on the taskbar is still there, though...). The only way to get my screen back, is to switch back from seamless mode to Auto-resize Guest system mode...

So, the only "stable" situation for me is to keep the top and bottom bars of the VirtualBox window (so, not going to seamless mode) and stay with a resolution of 1152x864 pixels (although my Windows screen resolution is 1280x1024, which is perfectly usable in VmWare...).

Best rgds,

--Geert
Best rgds,
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