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reader4 wrote:I get the same (non-playing) behavior in VMware Server. I just converted the virtualbox vdi to vmware (simple and fast) and setup the server... no joy. What differences might there be between Workstation and Server (I know, not really a virtualbox question... just trying to find the root of the problem)?

That is described on the website, don't you think so?

VirtualBox supports OpenGL.

VMWARE Workstation/Player DirectX 9c (3d) for Xp Guests.

VMWARE Server supports nothing.

I can't find the link now, but I read something the other day about problems with virtual machine video drivers and Intel cards on linux... something about the linux Intel drivers not supporting every feature of the hardware due in part to IP issues, etc. Seemed to be more about 3D graphics, but maybe that is still the problem here. Bummer.

Having this exact problem in Ubuntu 8.10, with Vista as the guest OS. Player just spins waiting for video to load. I have an Nvidia card, not an Intel, if that's at all relevant. Just thought I'd chime in...

me too post follows ... and in my case I can guarantee it is not a linux issue ... all microsoft

Thinkpad R40 + Windows XP Pro SP3 + VirtualBox 2.1.4 + Windows XP Pro SP3 + IE 7

I tried setting the VRAM up to 128M and 3D accelleration enabled ... no difference.

Any ideas?

Tried contacting Move Networks' support several times, but never got more than the "try this version" answer. No replies when I asked which graphics feature might be missing to cause this specific problem.

I've not found a solution for this, but if your just interested in watching the TV shows from these sites you might just use www.hulu.com. They host many of the Fox and ABC shows. I can watch these shows in my guest (Windows XP) OS and my Ubuntu linux distribution.

I actually think it's a network problem.

Virtualbox network is very slow. I also have tried to user virtualbox with some PLC equipment with no success.

I changed the VirtualBox network card emulation to "Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)" and then download the diagnostic utilities from intel. Only one test pass. The others just fail or where disabled.

I remember that older versions of VirtualBox used to work fine with Movenetworks media player.

Or is it the Player release?..

I suspecting that Movenetworks did something to it so that it won't work in Virtualbox or VMWare so that linux users won't use it. Sorry guys, but I suspect that Microsoft has something to do with this.

I just don't trust Microsoft and I also don't trust Movenetworks, the last promised a player for linux and never release it.

BTW.. Here's a link to movenetworks linux petition.

http://www.petitiononline.com/movlinux/petition.html

Regards,

I found an old Virtualbox HD image I had in an old PC where Movenetworks Player used to work fine.

But!!! when I first got in to Televisa (www.tvolucion.com) I was asked if I wanted to Update the MoveNetworks Player, so I choose not to update.

All video played great and smooth.

So I updated VirtualBox to 3.04 to see if it was a network problem with it. Since like I said in an message before, it freezes while downloading movenetworks video.

And again.. All video played great and smooth again with VB 3.04.

My next test was to let the movenetworks player update to the latest version.

Guess what?.

it just freezes.

So I guess Movenetworks changed something so it won't work with Virtual Machines.

Darn!! I guess microsoft is really giving some pressure to Movenetworks so that we Linux users won't use their plugins.

I think all U.S. citizens should send an email to congress to check on this.

Like a user in another site said:

Linux users need to come together on this or we are going to get blocked even further from online streaming TV.
Submit your complaints to the FCC / DOJ - Antitrust / your Congressman / whitehouse (dot ) gov / local media providers / etc.

Regards

That is so true. Here in Europe, the EC is already working on creating a more open market for other software suppliers. They fined MS for quite a lot because they didn't deliver their source code or technical documentation to them in time, have a monopoly with Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer and some more things. This however, does not change anything in the rest of the world. Windows 7 will be released only here without IE and optional WMP. You don't have a choice when you live outside Europe.

But enough of this, it's getting too much off topic . I guess this thread is now solved, it's not a VB problem, but general application/virtualization issue.

You found an old version of Move Media Player that works in VB 3.04? What version was it? Is there any way to share it? I might even have an old HDD that has an older version as well...

reader4 wrote:You found an old version of Move Media Player that works in VB 3.04? What version was it? Is there any way to share it? I might even have an old HDD that has an older version as well...

I don't know what version is it. But I can check.. i will try to download it.

I'll let you know.

You found an old version of Move Media Player that works in VB 3.04? What version was it? Is there any way to share it? I might even have an old HDD that has an older version as well...

A friend and I are running Ubuntu 9.04, and we're both UConn Huskies fans. My friend was hoping to catch the Seton Hall game the other night on ESPN360. I assumed VirtualBox would be the easy solution, but I ran into similar problems as others above.

It seems likely that Move Media Player's problems with VirtualBox and Wine are related. The only posts I see on the web about this issue are this one: http://amyslab.wordpress.com/2008/06/26 ... in-ubuntu/ and a couple at Ubuntu Forums.

I've been playing around with this for about four hours now on Windows XP SP3 in VirtualBox 3.1.2 and also in Crossover Pro 7.2. I chose Crossover instead of the community builds of Wine, since the compatibility is usually better.

I was able to find the URL to an old version of the Move Media Player at the DNCC website; you can still grab it here: http://player.movenetworks.com/pub/BBB8 ... 000006.exe I assume there are some other URLs that can be gleaned by browsing to other sites that require the player, but I don't think it's gonna matter: ESPN360 forces you to upgrade to the newest version.

Browsers I've tried: Firefox 2, 3, 3.5, Chrome, IE6, IE7, IE8, Maxthon (longshot).

Firefox 2 is the only browser that installs/runs without crashing in Crossover, except for the standalone Crossover Chromium, which doesn't load the Move Media Player correctly.

I *HATE* proprietary software, DRM, and these silly schemes; this is even worse than when I had to use Silverlight to watch the NCAA tournament last year!

UPDATE: I can confirm that these versions of the Move Player don't work for me -- 071705000014 (the latest), 071505000010, and 07130300006 (the one I link to above). I also tried running Firefox with Crossover in an Xnest window, since that seemed to solve some peoples' problems with Wine a year or so ago. No luck.

If I feel less fed up with this, I'll try IE7 in Crossover 8 in the next few days, unless someone else posts a solution on the web.

I GOT MOVE MEDIA PLAYER TO WORK IN WINE
I know this is VirtualBox forums, but I think others in this thread would be interested to see a solution to use Move Media Player in GNU/Linux.

Ubuntu version: 9.04 x86
Wine version: 1.01
Firefox version: 2.0.0.20
Flash player version: 9.0
Move Media Player version: 071706000001

1. Install Wine. In Ubuntu/Debian: 2. Download Firefox 2 and install it in Wine. I grabbed ffox 2 from here: http://download.oldapps.com/Firefox/Fir ... 0.0.20.exe
If you save the file on your Desktop, the command to install it would be: ...you should also be able to run the .exe in wine just by opening it in Nautilus (e.g. double-clicking on the .exe).

3. Download Adobe Flash Player and install it in Wine. Download link: http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashpl ... player.exe
Install it just like the .exe in step 2; example: 4. Download the Move Media Player and install it in Wine. I grabbed it from here: http://player.movenetworks.com/pub/BBB8 ... 000006.exe Install it just like the other .exe files; example: *NOTE*: I'm not sure this is a necessary step, as we will install the latest Move Media Player in step 6. I just don't want to screw with my setup to find out Also, the Move Media Player version will likely change in the future, so finding a version that works in Wine and the website you wanna view (in my case, ESPN360) could be more difficult down the line. That is, step 6 only works right now (January 2010) but no guarantees about later.

5. Install the User Agent Switcher addon for Firefox from here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
Restart Firefox and add the user agent string for Firefox 2 in Windows XP. There are two ways of doing this:

Option 1. Add the string yourself via Tools > Add-ons > Extensions > User Agent Switcher > Options > New > New User Agent. The string to paste in is Option 2. Grab an XML file to import the string (and many others) into User Agent Switcher here: http://qainsight.net/content/binary/Age ... 070304.xml Save the file and import it via Tools > Add-ons > Extensions > User Agent Switcher > Options > Import

6. With the user agent string set to Firefox 2 in Windows XP (Tools > Default User Agent), browse to http://www.movenetworks.com/install-move-player Follow the instructions there to update your player. If your browser freezes, just close it and start it again, restoring the previous session.

7. Browse to the site you want to view, and you should be all set! Just make sure your user agent string is still set to Firefox 2 in Windows XP.