Move Media Player (abc & fox online TV)

kai4785 · Post by **kai4785** » 21. Dec 2008, 17:50

I have fallen in love with VirtualBox. It has a level of polish and functionality that neither KVM/Virt-Manager or VMWare has reached, IMO. Can't live with out Transparent Mode

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One last thing that I've been dying for is the Move Media Player to work stably, SOMEWHERE on my Linux machine. Not only is Wine+Firefox just plain old silly, it's unstable (crashes frequently) and the performance is less than tolerable. Has anybody been able to get it to work at all in a windowsXP guest? If you want a direct link to test, try:
http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=house
There you can switch between regular flash videos, and their HD Streamer (The Move Media Player.) You should find that the regular flash videos play, and the HD Streamer sits at a blank screen if you get the same results that I do. FIrefox and IE both behave the same, leading me to believe it's the Player, and not a browser issue.

Thanks!

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 4. Feb 2009, 05:59

Having similar issues... I think this has worked for me in the past, but I will have to try my other machines to find out. Just spins but never shows video. Advice on where to start?

Worth mentioning that it doesn't work on two different 64-bit Ubuntu hosts or one 32-bit Ubuntu host, all with winXP SP2 or 3 guests, either in IE7 or Firefox. I know it used to work on the 32-bit host with WinXP... anyone tried downgrading their VirtualBox / Move Media Player?

brycekmartin · Post by **brycekmartin** » 5. Feb 2009, 05:05

I cannot get ABC to load either. It gives me an error but then loads the player, but when the video goes to load it just sits there spinning. This is using the normal player, not the HD one. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Does it require DRM? Is the DRM in the guest OS totally functional?

nabamer. · Post by **nabamer.** » 5. Feb 2009, 16:13

I to have been having the same exact problem as brycekmartin. Using IE7 in VB, can see the first commercial that loads I click continue then it hangs at the spinning wheel and goes not further... This is from abc.go.com.

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 6. Feb 2009, 23:25

anyone know a place to find old versions of the move media player?

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 13. Feb 2009, 05:40

No takers? I got an updated Move Media Player from their support link, but it didn't help. I wonder if the Virtualbox video driver has trouble with the Move Player? Anyone try another virtualization product?

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 13. Feb 2009, 22:19

Here is the reply from the Move Media folks when updating my Windows guest, adobe and the media player didn't help:

"You may need to update your video card driver in order to resolve this issue. Please contact your video card/chipset manufacturer if you require assistance."

Not sure exactly what updates are needed, but it seems that the VirtualBox video driver is not compatible with the current Move Media player.

Post by **vbox4me2** » 13. Feb 2009, 23:20

Could you try VLC ? (http://www.videolan.org/)

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 14. Feb 2009, 00:59

VLC does not handle the Move Media Player format used by abc.com, fox.com, etc., which works only in Firefox or IE7 for Windows and Mac.

Post by **vbox4me2** » 14. Feb 2009, 01:13

I'm sure VLC will play it, can't test it since Fox uses regional IP detection, does anyone have a stream url?

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 15. Feb 2009, 22:20

I'm not sure where you are going with this... if i'm not mistaken, move media is encrypted and plays from inside flash on these sites. if you can get it to work with vlc, we'd love to hear about it, but i think it's a bit of a wild goose...

kai4785 · Post by **kai4785** » 17. Feb 2009, 06:10

I had pretty much given up on this thread

I'm glad there's some buzz here.

@vbox4me2
The move media codec is proprietary and encrypted, so it is not likely that VLC will ever have a working codec until that changes.

I live geographically close to the HQ for Move Networks, and the VP of something or other came to visit my college speaker series class, and i was able to ask him if there was a Linux version coming soon. His response was that their target audience does not include Linux Desktop Users, and that the first extension into the Linux OS will likely be in the hand held market. I can only assume he's talking about things like the N810 from Nokia.
I personally find it hard to believe that they think that is a bigger market share than desktop linux users, but that's their deal.

So, let me know if anybody is able to figure this one out. I'm not even sure what the software/hardware requirements are that we are missing.

Thanks for posting the bug reader4

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/3335

-Kai Meyer

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 17. Feb 2009, 17:21

This is a pain, but my bigger concern is that this becomes a trend... innovation in video outpacing what we have available to us. As you said, there is really no way to debug this... I asked the Move Media support people for help and got a somewhat helpful "update everything and try this new build of the player," which still didn't work. When I go to this site:

www.movenetworks.com/support/renderer.html

I get nothing in the player window, or in audio. I can click the buttons, which supposedly tries to change the renderer from VFW to DirectDraw, but this fails as well. I asked their support whether there was any specific information they could give me about what is required by the media player, but have not received a response. Hard to find a solution if you can't define the problem...

Eck · Post by **Eck** » 21. Feb 2009, 05:31

I ran the whole episode of Fox's "Dollhouse" premiere today using VMWare Workstation 6.5.1. It was using a Windows XP SP3 guest on my Debian Lenny host and I had the website going with Internet Explorer 7.

Unfortunately I don't have a Windows guest installed on my VirtualBox install at the moment so this isn't too helpful I guess, but since playback was fine using VMWare this should be something that is fixable for VirtualBox. Maybe it is the vboxvideo driver after all?

reader4 · Post by **reader4** » 21. Feb 2009, 18:43

I get the same (non-playing) behavior in VMware Server. I just converted the virtualbox vdi to vmware (simple and fast) and setup the server... no joy. What differences might there be between Workstation and Server (I know, not really a virtualbox question... just trying to find the root of the problem)?

Move Media Player (abc & fox online TV)

Move Media Player (abc & fox online TV)

Count me in as well...