Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

Hi. I am having A lag problem on my new ASUS Tuf gaming laptop.

The laptops model name and specs info are as follows:

ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZE-RS73 15.6" Laptop Computer - Gray Intel Core i7 12th Gen 12700H 1.7GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti 4GB GDDR6; 16GB DDR5-4800 RAM; 512GB Solid State Drive.

VirtualBox build number: Version 7.0.9 r158070 (Qt5.15.2)

Extension Pack version: 7.0.9 r158070

Host OS: Windows 11 Pro X86_64

Guest OS: Windows 3.1 & MS-DOS

I bought this new laptop in January 2023. This problem started occurring about 3 months ago in April 2023.

Can someone contact the VirtualBox dev team ASAP? This bug is driving me crazy!

Bug report link on Bugtracker: https://www dot virtualbox dot org/ticket/21613 I have tried the following things to fix it: Disabled PAE/NX, Lowered the VMs Ram, And tried different test beta builds.

Bug report video links:

Figure 1: No lag when VM is not started. https://drive dot google dot com/file/d/1L4Z3RpuOs60SjYVbfIhkpW86xRBlZvTY/view

Figure 2: Lag on the host machine when the VM is running.

https://drive dot google dot com/file/d/1oRDAoFewm8bDbj-2V7-BrPVcdPj3H_Ou/view

Error screenshot link: https://i dot postimg dot cc/sXGLHWBn/Screenshot-2023-07-04-174221.png

Log files: https://www dot virtualbox dot org/raw-attachment/ticket/21613/Logs.zip
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Bug tracker ticker number 21613

Bug report link: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21613 ... #comment:1
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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By the way this problem did NOT happen on my old laptop??!? WHY is Nested Paging causing this!?!?
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

Post by mpack »

There's no point in raising a bug report - neither Win 3.1 nor DOS are supported guests.

Post a zipped VM log and we'll have a look. Make sure the VM is fully shut down, then right click it in the manager UI. Select "Show Log" and save "VBox.log" (no other file) to a zip file. Attach the zip here.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Log files:
Logs.zip
Log Files
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Logs without nested paging.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

Post by mpack »

You can disable 3D graphics acceleration. There are no Guest Additions for Win3.1 guests, and hence no accelerated graphics drivers.

I don't understand your focus on nested paging. I see nothing in your original post to establish this is a cause for concern.

I see that you have superfluous third party AV installed (Malwarebytes). This can conflict with VirtualBox.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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It helped a little bit but it did not fix the issue entirely. Please debug the logs more and see WHY nested paging is causing this problem
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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I've already looked at logs provided, I don't need to look at them again. If the scenario has changed then new logs are required.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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This may be the sort of thing that requires looking into the source code.

You'll have to be patient and wait for someone to come along who may want to dig in.

BTW, we're not Oracle employees here on the forum, we're your fellow Virtualbox users. Please keep that in mind with your requests.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

Post by scottgus1 »

eg1 wrote: 1. Aug 2023, 14:49 I bought this new laptop in January 2023. This problem started occurring about 3 months ago in April 2023.
Also, it appears to be working for a few months, then started having problems. What happened at that time? Host OS updates? Virtualbox version changes?
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Unknown I dont know!
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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OK, thanks. Please patiently wait until someone who has the skills and desire to source-code-hunt comes along.
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Thank you so much!
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Re: Windows 3.1 / MS-DOS Lag on new ASUS TUF Gaming laptop.

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Hello, are you here? 7.0.x revision 158681 Does not fix this.
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