emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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p060477
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emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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hi, is there a way to have emukle working with the 2 green arrows, so high id, but not using network bridged
so if we should like to use NAT...??

in my try i get always low id and 2 yellow arrows...
thxs in adv.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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I have no idea what you're talking about re emules & arrows.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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Emule is apparantly third party software. Something like BitTorrent. I'm not sure why the OP expects support for it here.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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hi Scott
thxs again
see this pic.:
https://user-images.githubusercontent.c ... c9c5a9.png

and of course i'm asking here cause i'm using it now inside a guest vm in vbox...
if i use it in my host i've no trouble and i got the high id
if i use it in vbox in my guest vm and choose network bridged also no problems
the problems come with network NAT....
so i'm asking here if also with network NAT is there a way to use emule with high id and no low one...
thxs in adv
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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p060477 wrote: 16. Jun 2023, 17:30 high id and no low one...
Still no idea what a high or low id is.
p060477 wrote: 16. Jun 2023, 17:30 if i use it in vbox in my guest vm and choose network bridged also no problems
Why not use it in Bridged?

If emule requires internet traffic to come to your VM without your app asking for it, such as if others want to torrent from your VM, then NAT may require ports opened. What those ports are will be determined from emule's help channels.

Remember that NAT behaves like a router. Virtualbox Networks: In Pictures: NAT So ports should be opened if you want internet users to get into the VM without you manually letting them in.
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p060477 wrote: 16. Jun 2023, 18:07 not bridged cause is less safe then NAT
How is it "less safe"? Running an internet-connected app in XP might be less safe.

Can you ping 8.8.8.8 in the VM?
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virtualbox guide say it clearly here: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06. ... k_internal

Even though technically, everything that can be done using internal networking can also be done using bridged networking, there are security advantages with internal networking. In bridged networking mode, all traffic goes through a physical interface of the host system. It is therefore possible to attach a packet sniffer such as Wireshark to the host interface and log all traffic that goes over it. If, for any reason, you prefer two or more VMs on the same machine to communicate privately, hiding their data from both the host system and the user, bridged networking therefore is not an option.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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OK, thanks. That is not a concern here. Are you going to install a packet sniffer on your host? Is anyone else? If not, you'd have no problem running Bridged.

If this question is really about quality of service, green vs yellow arrows or high vs low id, then if there is traffic getting through, Virtualbox is working, and maybe there's something about the emule configuration that is the problem. Although, CPU load may also influence network speed, so check how much CPU is being used by the host and the VM.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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"CPU load may also influence network speed, so check how much CPU is being used by the host and the VM."...:
so you are saying that NAT has a different and much more heavy behaviour on CPU then bridged...??

this is the ping you ask from guest vm:

Microsoft Windows XP [Versione 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Luca>ping 8.8.8.8

Esecuzione di Ping 8.8.8.8 con 32 byte di dati:

Risposta da 8.8.8.8: byte=32 durata=12ms TTL=115
Risposta da 8.8.8.8: byte=32 durata=12ms TTL=115
Risposta da 8.8.8.8: byte=32 durata=13ms TTL=115
Risposta da 8.8.8.8: byte=32 durata=12ms TTL=115

Statistiche Ping per 8.8.8.8:
Pacchetti: Trasmessi = 4, Ricevuti = 4, Persi = 0 (0% persi),
Tempo approssimativo percorsi andata/ritorno in millisecondi:
Minimo = 12ms, Massimo = 13ms, Medio = 12ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Luca>
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Good pings mean the Virtualbox network is working.
p060477 wrote: 16. Jun 2023, 18:28 so you are saying that NAT has a different and much more heavy behaviour on CPU then bridged...??
No. If CPU usage is high, network gets slower.
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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so why NAT give a -firewalled- emule and not let it working at his best...??
https://www.thefreewindows.com/190/emul ... iguration/

NAT gives a low id
bridge gives a high id
all of this inside vbox vm guest
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Re: emule with high id and network NOT bridged

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NAT behaves like a router. That's just what it does. There's nothing else Virtualbox can change about that.

If you're really set on having a "router" between the emule VM and the host, and not simply going to high mode via Bridged, look at Virtualbox Networks: In Pictures: "Sandbox". The pfSense VM in a Sandbox setup may behave better than NAT for your needs.
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