Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by 0x00000074 »

Did you set the Controller to IDE?
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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0x00000074, Mario Rosso's log shows the VM to be IDE. You can see the storage settings in the [Devices] section of the log, at the beginning.

At the very beginning of the log, the host disk files used by the VM will be shown, like these from Mario's log:
00:00:03.257309 File system of 'C:\Users\fross\VirtualBox VMs\Windows Vista Beta 1\Windows Vista Beta 1.vdi' is ntfs
00:00:03.258165 File system of 'C:\Users\fross\Downloads\en_longhorn_beta1_dvd.iso' (DVD) is ntfs
Now, search the log for the VM's disk files, looking for the entries in [Devices]:
00:00:03.300096 [/Devices/piix3ide/0/LUN#0/Config/] (level 5)
00:00:03.300097 Format <string> = "VDI" (cb=4)
00:00:03.300098 Mountable <integer> = 0x0000000000000000 (0)
00:00:03.300099 Path <string> = "C:\Users\fross\VirtualBox VMs\Windows Vista Beta 1\Windows Vista Beta 1.vdi" (cb=76)
00:00:03.300100 Type <string> = "HardDisk" (cb=9)

00:00:03.300104 [/Devices/piix3ide/0/LUN#2/Config/] (level 5)
00:00:03.300105 Format <string> = "RAW" (cb=4)
00:00:03.300106 Mountable <integer> = 0x0000000000000001 (1)
00:00:03.300107 Path <string> = "C:\Users\fross\Downloads\en_longhorn_beta1_dvd.iso" (cb=51)
00:00:03.300108 ReadOnly <integer> = 0x0000000000000001 (1)
00:00:03.300109 Type <string> = "DVD" (cb=4)
This shows Mario's VM using the IDE controller.

A VM using SATA would look like this:
00:00:05.626219 [/Devices/ahci/0/LUN#0/Config/] (level 5)
00:00:05.626221 BlockCache <integer> = 0x0000000000000001 (1)
00:00:05.626222 Format <string> = "VDI" (cb=4)
00:00:05.626223 Mountable <integer> = 0x0000000000000000 (0)
00:00:05.626224 Path <string> = "C:\Users\scott\VirtualBox VMs\Windows 8\Windows 8.vdi" (cb=54)
00:00:05.626225 Type <string> = "HardDisk" (cb=9)
00:00:05.626226 UseNewIo <integer> = 0x0000000000000001 (1)
If you want to see what the other controllers look like, you can set up a VM making the VM disk file use a different controller and start the VM without an OS installed. Once you get to the "load a CD/ISO" box, close it, then close the VM powering it off. You can then see what the [Devices] section looks like for that controller.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by Mario Rosso »

I don't know what are you saying... I tried to install Windows Vista Beta 1 on IDE instead of SATA? So I must using SATA or IDE?
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by scottgus1 »

Mario Rosso wrote: 16. Sep 2023, 19:19 I don't know what are you saying
I was explaining to 0x00000074 how to read a log to find out what disk controller a VM is using. Yours is using IDE.

Virtualbox defaults to using SATA for Vista VMs, so that might be an interesting change you could try. Though Vista ought to understand IDE quite well.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by Mario Rosso »

Nothing, after file copying, when needs to restart always gives me DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE, then when I reset always on the screen:

Completing installation...

Do not restart your computer during this time.

CPU always goes to 0% after some time, but if I reset (one time happened, I don't know if happens every time) gives me an error saying that setup failed, then when restarts always gives me DRIVER_POWER_STATE FAILURE.

Maybe cannot be installed on VirtualBox... Such as OSes Windows 2000 Beta 3 Build 1983-2000 or other OSes (because seeing comments on this video: "https://youtu.be/dbcLY1fwzTE" and on this site "https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/beta-3" they got Guru Meditation when installing Windows 2000 Beta 3 Build 2000 on VirtualBox). Maybe some OSes such as Windows 2000 Beta 3 Build 2000 or other such as Windows Vista Beta 1 gives a BSOD...
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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Could very well be. Your Vista is a beta build, and Virtualbox is only developed for final releases. We have seen Vista in VMs before on the forum, so Vista does work, just not perhaps the betas.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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But such videos on this channels "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrIMGT ... rTw/videos" he installed Windows Betas such as Windows Whistler, Windows Longhorn, ecc. while they work but very unusable on VirtualBox, while some other can't be installed as they get a BSOD or VirtualBox returns a Guru Meditation error.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by scottgus1 »

Did he install beta 8045?
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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But what is beta 8045?
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by scottgus1 »

I'm sorry, I crossed this with another topic where someone was trying an OS beta. Please ignore the 8045 thing.

Is this a full OS install or an upgrade install that expects XP to already be installed?
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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I was trying to do an installation (not upgrade) but I know that VirtualBox can't run Windows Betas, except what he did.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

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Mario Rosso wrote: 17. Sep 2023, 13:43 installation (not upgrade)
OK, thanks. Your VM is set to XP, not Vista. Try again in a new VM, using a Vista VM setting.
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Re: Can't install Windows Vista Beta 1

Post by Mario Rosso »

I set to Vista but still doesn't work. And I have a problem with a beta and not with a final. But I say again, maybe cannot be installed on VirtualBox, such as Windows 2000 Beta 3 Build 2000...
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