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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby Fielding » 8. Jun 2021, 21:54

Scottgus the problem is solved.
I am going to explain how I solve for the rest of members.

I think you are not a helper . Only a boss of forum. No helping really.
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby scottgus1 » 8. Jun 2021, 22:26

Fielding wrote:I think you are not a helper . Only a boss of forum. No helping really.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Lots of others disagree with you though. And I will still be able to sleep tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl7U2jy1wMQ

Your English is hard to understand. Please use your native language if you ever return, and we may be able to understand each other better.

(Mod note: I seem to have picked up my first detractor! :lol: )
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby mpack » 9. Jun 2021, 11:14

He has a false impression anyway. These are user discussion forums, nobody is obliged to provide help, not even moderators. Our only actual duty is to keep the forums neat and tidy and free from abusive posts and spam.

Many of us do also volunteer to help people with problems. But when the inefficiency of writing the same stuff over and over again (for those too lazy to search) begins to irk, we write a FAQ and point people to that instead. So suck it up and read the damn FAQ.

What we will do is respond to criticisms of the FAQ, i.e. how understandable it is. It's in our interests to ensure that it's easily understood, and will be much more so than any off the cuff response could be. Most FAQs get finely tuned over a period of years to do their job better. That includes keeping the language simple so that online translation works better.

All the more irksome then when someone claims offence at being directed to the obvious FAQ because... laziness is a virtue?

Guess what: the FAQ is there for a reason. If you refuse to use FAQs then that's your choice, not our problem at all.
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby Oracleiscool » 14. Oct 2021, 18:45

Hi Team and All;

Suggest a catagory for Windows Security. Currently, with Windows 11 rollout and the subsequent security features being added by MS for the "zero trust" platform (as they release the product). And, by association, the fact that a lot of those changes will eventually migrate into the update channel for Windows 10 until 2025, we really need a place to discuss, or at least give some reference points and links to the MS documents as they continue to explain their new security level(s).

It is a moving target that has exposed more security settings to us normal users at a level not previously seen by us. I guess they call it standard vs. enhanced. So does "zero trust" equal either security level or just enhanced? Or are they linked? And obviously, how does this effect the operation of VirtualBox and it's VirtualMachines
(Either Host or Guest)?

Normally, MS will hyper-focus their team on their community forums where we normally would ask questions that are not specific to a root problem, but instead probe their professionals about where they are (and where they are headed) in relation to our equipment, and what we can do vs. what we should not do, or can, but it will break a trust routine and take "zero trust" to "BSOD" or "Brick".

I know everyone is busy, so please don't rush the response to this suggestion, just think about it, as I think zero trust has become zero communications from MS, unless they know who you are (and not a hacker trying to steal stuff!) before they answer. :idea:
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby Oracleiscool » 21. Oct 2021, 16:39

I am not real happy with the lack of response on the part of MS concerning my previous post regarding their impending direction on security.

As the new Windows rollout continues, their security team keeps mentioning more security chips (besides TPM) and more virtual machine op code to basically "containerize" Windows, to the exclusion of all other code on the same device (to include VirtualBox).

Their goal is to lockout anything other than their system. They have expressed that as their direction. Small tidbits of postings that, as the new Windows continues to rollout, and more features are added (android store?) the lockdown continues.

Just as a side to this, I went to the TCG/TPM website and re-read some of the earlier posting from all the OS system members about the "openess" of the TPM (and by design the UEFI protocol) and how we are all going to get along, hold hands around the campfire and sing kumba-ya!

Well, guess where that is headed.... and that is not a guess, it is a fact.

I get the reasoning, but to say no one else cares about all of our security no matter what the platform is a real stretch. :roll:
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby Oracleiscool » 25. Oct 2021, 18:44

Hey mpack and scottgus1,

Can someone at the team leader level setup a Windows 11 and VirtualBox 7.0 discussion area for the Windows Host area?

I know there are still a lot of moving parts to work out, and since I can't actually use Windows 11, I am curious to see how Oracle Team is going to maybe "try" to get the application to run in the Windows Host space without having to neuter the enhanced security in Windows (or make the installation seamless).

I just see the forums filling up with messages in the future about (for example) "I tried to load an android app or WSL2 app or whatever, and my Windows showed an error that without enhanced security, this operation is not supported" type of deal. Hope you are all well. 8)
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby scottgus1 » 25. Oct 2021, 18:48

We'll have a "Discuss the 7.0 Release" topic when 7.0 comes out, but not until then, I'd think. They usually wait for the release.

I suspect that the devs will give thought to whatever enhanced security 11 requires when 11 becomes a supported host, which I also think it may not be yet.
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby fth0 » 25. Oct 2021, 23:12

@Oracleiscool:

I do not want to start a technical discussion in this thread. If you want such a discussion, please start a new thread in the appropriate area (e.g.VirtualBox on Windows Hosts).

Only this much here: Most of the security-related issues you've mentioned in many of your posts are not new in Windows 11, but have been evolving in Windows 10 for several years now. Therefore, I do not see a need for a dedicated Windows 11 area.
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Re: Feedback & comment to the Administrators and Moderators

Postby Oracleiscool » 26. Oct 2021, 01:59

@fth0,

Yes, I agree. All that you said. I just posed the question (I know these changes were happening long ago, I just was not paying attention as I should have been.. my bad) as that, and I really can't make it a subject as I can't use the Host in Windows 11.

My newer HP has the wrong CPU, so no 11 for me. That is what I get for not paying attention to MS as I went to Linux years ago, and just keep up the Windows machine as a backup for my Linux and my spouse. I think scottgus1 is right to recommend a delay, and definitely not in this forum area. :)
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