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Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Yes, Tiger runs as 6.0.2 guest. Sometimes the VM hangs at the beginning of the boot process.
This was no fresh install, but an ancient VM from the beginning of my Virtualbox tests.
In 6.0.2 i had to tweak some CPU settings, but at the same time I moved all my VMs from
a 2009 iMac to a new iMac...
The present CPU settings are:
This was no fresh install, but an ancient VM from the beginning of my Virtualbox tests.
In 6.0.2 i had to tweak some CPU settings, but at the same time I moved all my VMs from
a 2009 iMac to a new iMac...
The present CPU settings are:
<CPU count="2" CpuProfile="Intel Pentium 4 3.00GHz"> <PAE enabled="true"/> <LongMode enabled="false"/> <HardwareVirtExLargePages enabled="true"/> <CpuIdTree> <CpuIdLeaf id="0" eax="4" ebx="1970169159" ecx="1818588270" edx="1231384169"/> <CpuIdLeaf id="1" eax="3907" ebx="133120" ecx="4227858431" edx="4294967295"/> <CpuIdLeaf id="2147483649" eax="0" ebx="0" ecx="4294967295" edx="4294967295"/> </CpuIdTree> </CPU>
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
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<HardwareVirtExLargePages enabled="true"/>
<CpuIdTree>
<CpuIdLeaf id="0" eax="4" ebx="1970169159" ecx="1818588270" edx="1231384169"/>
<CpuIdLeaf id="1" eax="3907" ebx="133120" ecx="4227858431" edx="4294967295"/>
<CpuIdLeaf id="2147483649" eax="0" ebx="0" ecx="4294967295" edx="4294967295"/>
</CpuIdTree>
</CPU>
Thank you for the infomation.
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Just tried it with another new VM ...
This time I used the following settings:
1) Standard macOS 32 bit template
2) 64M Video memory
3) 2 CPUs
4) VBoxManage modifyvm <YourVM> --cpu-profile "Intel Xeon X5482 3.20GHz"
This time I had NOT to tweak other CPU settings.
The settings depend highly on your host CPU. When your virtual CPU is the wrong type,
you usually get a kernel panic at the beginning of the boot process.
But as said in my previous posting, sometimes you have just to restart (CMD-R) the vm a few times,
so that the machine finds its root device.
This time I used the following settings:
1) Standard macOS 32 bit template
2) 64M Video memory
3) 2 CPUs
4) VBoxManage modifyvm <YourVM> --cpu-profile "Intel Xeon X5482 3.20GHz"
This time I had NOT to tweak other CPU settings.
The settings depend highly on your host CPU. When your virtual CPU is the wrong type,
you usually get a kernel panic at the beginning of the boot process.
But as said in my previous posting, sometimes you have just to restart (CMD-R) the vm a few times,
so that the machine finds its root device.
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
I'm really curious -- what do people need Tiger for in this day and age? Is it just for fun, or is there actually something that runs on Tiger but not Snow Leopard?
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Reason for getting a 10.4 VM running os for older software used for proprietary hardware from companies that no longer exist or that have never updated their software. I have a need to facilitate an older OS that runs older FCP, among others, to do media updating from OLD formats to newer ones that can be managed by the newer software we use. VLC, Handbrake, etc do not work 100% with these old medias that we are keeping archived.
I can not get 10.4.9 to install, it hangs at the same point every time. I tried older 10.4 discs/DMGs, but they were pre-Intel.
I can not get 10.4.9 to install, it hangs at the same point every time. I tried older 10.4 discs/DMGs, but they were pre-Intel.
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Sorry for being late to the discussion...
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Please avoid setting the registers directly, that was the old way of doing things. The newer way is to set the "cpu-profile":okiuss wrote:The present CPU settings are:
VBoxManage modifyvm "<VM name>" --cpu-profile "Intel Core i7-6700K" VBoxManage modifyvm "<VM name>" --cpu-profile "Intel Core i7-5600U"
okiuss wrote:4) VBoxManage modifyvm <YourVM> --cpu-profile "Intel Xeon X5482 3.20GHz"
This time I had NOT to tweak other CPU settings.
And 10.5, or even better 10.6 won't work? I'm asking this because the Intel 10.4 distribution was a very limited one, you had to have a specific Mac model to get it (I don't have it). The rest of the 10.4 distros that you find "in the wild" are mostly Hackintosh ones.c.archibald wrote:Reason for getting a 10.4 VM running os for older software used for proprietary hardware from companies that no longer exist
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
I have the grey 10.4.9 discs that came with a Mac Pro, so the Intel discs are not the issue, for me. I can't pull from the wild for my work anyways. My 10.6 VM isn't installing either & I have original discs for that as well. I did make DMGs from them & attached that to the VMs. I would like to try & set the CPU to a Xeon, or maybe even this Xeon in my machine, just to get it loaded & mod it later. My Mac Pro is running 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 3.5ghz.socratis wrote:And 10.5, or even better 10.6 won't work? I'm asking this because the Intel 10.4 distribution was a very limited one, you had to have a specific Mac model to get it (I don't have it). The rest of the 10.4 distros that you find "in the wild" are mostly Hackintosh ones.
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How much!?! I'm buying them!c.archibald wrote:I have the grey 10.4.9 discs that came with a Mac Pro
Seriously, and I have no problem (moral or otherwise) saying this, I'd love to have a copy of those. I have a PowerMac that came with 10.4.2, but it was the PPC kind, and the installer was not universal. The next Mac that I got was a 10.6.2. The only reason that anyone would want this would be to run a VM. I find it unbelievably stupid from Apple's part to not provide complete installers for their previous versions; each and every version I mean. FWIW, you can still download Mac OS 9.1...
Again, if we could arrange it so that I can have a look at them (send me a PM), I wouldn't even have a problem notifying Apple Legal about it and take all the blame!
Otherwise I can't suggest anything in theory...
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
If it was just that easy. They are not my property. I need to check them on an older Intel Mac to verify it installs. Problem is digging up an old machine & making time. ;\socratis wrote:How much!?! I'm buying them!
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Make a copy then! An exact replica, not a DMG, a "Master CD/DVD". And then you sell me that one! Or "rent" it to me for educational purposes!c.archibald wrote:They are not my property.
But you still haven't answered one basic question: the programs that you want to run, won't run under 10.6?
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Pretty sure the printer/plotter drivers are limited to 10.4. Gonna have to check with Video to see what the conversion machines are hardware/software wise. For sure an old copy of FC Studio is part of it.socratis wrote:But you still haven't answered one basic question: the programs that you want to run, won't run under 10.6?
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Ouch! If you're talking about USB printers/plotters, be aware that these are two of the most not-cooperating USB devices that you're going to run upon! The have a tendency to misbehave. I assume that there's no networking option on these, right?c.archibald wrote:Pretty sure the printer/plotter drivers are limited to 10.4
Not sure what "Video" refers to here...c.archibald wrote:Gonna have to check with Video to see what the conversion machines are hardware/software wise
If by FC you mean FinalCut, you may have big issues with that too. A virtual machine has a virtual/fake GPU, and FinalCut is rather peculiar regarding its taste in GPUs...c.archibald wrote:For sure an old copy of FC Studio is part of it.
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Yeah. We may have to still use real hardware. ;(socratis wrote:Ouch! If you're talking about USB printers/plotters, be aware that these are two of the most not-cooperating USB devices that you're going to run upon! The have a tendency to misbehave. I assume that there's no networking option on these, right?
Our Video department.socratis wrote:Not sure what "Video" refers to here...
That's what I'm worried about.socratis wrote:If by FC you mean FinalCut, you may have big issues with that too. A virtual machine has a virtual/fake GPU, and FinalCut is rather peculiar regarding its taste in GPUs...
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Re: Is Tiger supported in VBOX 6.0.2
Can you give me an example of what you want to do? So far I've gotten some details that you want:
Because getting 10.4, on a Virtual Machine (something I don't have a hands-on experience), that's controlling real printers/plotters, and running FinalCut Pro on a fake GPU? It sounds to me like a really long shot...
Maybe you're attacking this from the wrong angle? Maybe there's a newer/better/different workflow that can work with this? For example, since we're talking about media files, can you try (as a first test) MediaInfo and see what codecs we're dealing with? Then we can have a better understanding on what you want to do. Or you can simply divulge those details yourself...c.archibald wrote:to do media updating from OLD formats to newer ones that can be managed by the newer software we use
Because getting 10.4, on a Virtual Machine (something I don't have a hands-on experience), that's controlling real printers/plotters, and running FinalCut Pro on a fake GPU? It sounds to me like a really long shot...
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