Numlock status on boot

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Numlock status on boot

Postby NA! » 28. Feb 2017, 10:42

Since as it seems, there is no way to alter any BIOS settings in VBox, it would be really great if there was an option in settings to let the user define the NumLock state at boot.
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Re: Numlock status on boot

Postby erdeslawe » 28. Feb 2017, 11:02

All of the online guides I've seen are OS Specific, i.e. they do have to be set/activated within the OS, in which case you would have to work directly with the individual Guest OS(s), not the Host OS/VirtualBox. For MS Windows there are many online guides to the Registry tweak(s) required, and similar guides for Linux variants.
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Re: Numlock status on boot

Postby NA! » 28. Feb 2017, 11:08

erdeslawe wrote:All of the online guides I've seen are OS Specific, i.e. they do have to be set/activated within the OS, in which case you would have to work directly with the individual Guest OS(s), not the Host OS/VirtualBox.


Yup, i know. I'm talking about the BIOS one. All BIOSs (the older ones at least) have such a setting. It would be nice if there was one in VBox too.
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Re: Numlock status on boot

Postby scottgus1 » 28. Feb 2017, 14:19

A quick search of the pdf version reveals three things:

First, the manual writers chose to write both "numlock" and "num lock", so we'd have to search for both.

Second, searching for "numlock" we find that the only reference is under "Known Issues", section 14.2, that Mac hosts don't have numlock emulation yet.

Third, searching "num lock" has this as the only reference:
The Manual wrote:15.19 Version 5.0.4 (2015-09-08)
This is a maintenance release. The following items were fixed and/or added:
.........
• GUI: fixed issues with synchronization of Caps lock / Num lock / Scroll lock on Windows hosts (bug #14302)


I sure seem to remember some Vboxmanage command about numlock, but I can't find it searching the manual, and I might be remembering incorrectly. Might have been about the lights rather than the key status itself.

It seems that on Windows and Linux hosts, the status of numlock in the guest is supposed to be the same as the numlock status in the host.

All the settings in a normal old-school BIOS that the developers determined to make any sense in adjusting in a guest are in the Guest settings in the main Virtualbox window, or in the Vboxmanage commands. We can consider the guest Settings to be our guest's BIOS adjustment page.

If you can make a case for why Numlock should always be a certain way when starting a particular guest you can suggest it to the developers as an enhancement on the Bugtracker. But having the guest follow the keyboard status rather than a BIOS setting seems to me to be better. Imagine someone sets the "BIOS" to have Numlock off when starting the guest rather than synchronize with the host Numlock status, and forgets about it, then starts the guest while used to the usual Numlock On behavior of the host, he'll go around the forums saying "Virtualbox is broken!"
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Re: Numlock status on boot

Postby lornova » 1. Sep 2017, 11:55

This is my top complaint on VirtualBox.

Relying on guest OS hacks is bad practice and advice, this has to be fixed in VM configuration, because that is the way physical systems behave!
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Re: Numlock status on boot

Postby Martin » 1. Sep 2017, 20:17

I haven't seen a physical system BIOS with a with a num lock setting for many years... ;-)
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