VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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mattgumbley
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VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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Hi, I'm trying to install Windows 10 1703 (it's old, it's the .iso I have at hand, I'll upgrade it when installed). Using latest Ventura 13.3 and VirtualBox 7.0.6.
Host is a MacBook Pro 15" 2018, Intel 2.6GHz 6-core i7, Radeon Pro 560X 4 GB Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536MB.
Usual Windows 10 defaults, but 4096MB memory and 2 CPUs. 128MB/VBoxSVGA for the video, no 3D acceleration. Audio disabled.

The Windows install UI is incredibly slow; I can see it drawing. There are blank lines in the early installer screens, as though random rows of video memory are disconnected. If I resize the window slightly, it refreshes OK, but any new drawing on there introduces these 'interlace lines'. These blank lines are fairly randomly distributed during early install; they're regular and every other line after the OS is installed.

I've installed Windows VMs on here before, with very similar settings on earlier macOS and earlier VirtualBox - with no issues; I have a Fedora 37 VM that was built when I had Ventura 13.2 and that install was fine, and it runs in 13.3 with no issues.

Are there any settings I could change that would improve performance / behaviour under 13.3?

Kind regards,
Matt
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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You could try turning 3D acceleration on, then maxing video RAM to 256MB. Also turn off Transparency Effects in the VM OS.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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Hi scottgus1, just tried that - it hasn't made any difference. This install is currently unactivated, so it won't let me turn off transparency effects. Scaling the display to 125% has removed the blank lines, but display updates, mouse movements are still extremely slow.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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mattgumbley wrote:it won't let me turn off transparency effects
See Ease of Access > Display > Simplify and personalize Windows > Show transparency in Windows

Start the VM from full normal shutdown, not save-state. Run until you see the problem happen, then shut down the VM from within the VM's OS if possible. If not possible, close the Virtualbox window for the VM with the Power Off option set.

Right-click the VM in the main Virtualbox window's VM list, choose Show in Explorer/Finder/File Manager. In the "Logs" subfolder, zip the VM's "vbox.log", and post the zip file, using the forum's Upload Attachment tab. (Configure your host OS to show all extensions so you can find the "vbox.log", not "vbox.log.1", etc.)
mattgumbley wrote:Ventura 13.3
Forum Mac guru granada29 reports that Virtualbox is having trouble with 13.3, and a new version of Virtualbox might be needed.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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VB 7.0.8 on Ventura 13.3 displays same problem.
- slow mouse movement
- screen refresh very slow and lines before redisplay
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macosissue
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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Exact same specs, exact same problem. Tried turning on 3D acceleration, and every other solution I could find online. I can't seem to find anyone else having this issue besides this thread though. Do older versions of VirtualBox work?
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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macosissue wrote:Do older versions of VirtualBox work?
Not on Ventura, no.
FastEddy
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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What is the suggestion with slow Windows 10 client on VB 7.0.8?
Downgrade VB and if so to what version?
Is there some work being done on a fix and if so is there an ETA (so one can decide whether to downgrade or wait for the fix)?
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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On a macOS Ventura host, I'd suggest to use the VirtualBox test builds 7.0.9r157071 or newer.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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The version 7.0.9 r157345 (Qt5.15.2) is a lot better.
I have some issues with copying and pasting as well as resizing but that might be a configuration issue on my side.

I'd be pleased to know when there is an official release to retest.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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FastEddy wrote:I'd be pleased to know when there is an official release to retest.
Only way to know that is watch the official download site http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. The devs don't publicly announce when new versions are going to come out.
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Re: VB 7.0.6, Ventura 13.3 host, Windows 10 1703 guest - extremely slow video updates

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FastEddy wrote:I'd be pleased to know when there is an official release to retest.
Chances are good for 2023-07-18. You can mark it in your calendar to verify my crystal ball. ;)
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