Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

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Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by sddawson »


ModEdit; related ticket: #17935: VBox crash restarting after Windows guest put into fullscreen mode, and VM unusable after that
I'm using Virtualbox 5.2.16 to run Windows 10 on Mac OS 10.13.6. If I take the Windows 10 guest full screen, then save the machine state, I am unable to restart it. I get:

Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Win10.
The VM session was aborted.
Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
Component: SessionMachine
Interface: ISession {7844aa05-b02e-4cdd-a04f-ade4a762e6b7}

After that, Virtualbox itself crashes, and the machine has a status of Aborted. I've not found a way to get the machine started after that, short of restoring from a Time Machine backup. I've attached a zip archive of the Mac OS crash log, and the Virtualbox log. This is entirely repeatable. Any ideas anyone?
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode

Post by socratis »

sddawson wrote:This is entirely repeatable.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), I couldn't reproduce this. OSX 10.11.6 host, VirtualBox 5.2.16, Win10-64 guest, full-screen in the main display of my MacBookPro11,5. I hit Cmd+Q to quit the VM, Save VM state. Restoring the VM works 100% of the time.
00:00:01.613555 Host RAM: 8192MB (8.0GB) total, 2906MB (2.8GB) available
00:00:01.801865 RamSize <integer> = 0x0000000100000000 (4 294 967 296, 4 096 MB, 4.0 GB)
...
00:00:02.061739 CPUM: Physical host cores: 2
00:00:01.801859 NumCPUs <integer> = 0x0000000000000002 (2)
I believe this is your problem. You don't have enough available RAM on your host to give to the VM, and you give 2 out of 2 CPUs. Your host is going to run low on resources, and it pretty much aborts.

May I suggest a couple of applications, so that you know what's available on your system at any given time? What I do, is to have several monitor tools running at all times. Your preference may vary, but you can use either of them (I use all of them concurrently):
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode

Post by sddawson »

Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts.

I would have thought that allocating 4GB RAM and 2 cores to the VM is purely a performance issue. If you allocate more RAM than is currently physically available to Mac OS, it will just cause more paging activity, not a crash.

However, I reduced RAM to 2GB and CPU cores to 1, and it behaves exactly the same - VM fails to start and Vbox crashes. Maybe it's an issue with 10.13.6. You said you're on 10.11.6. Or did you mean to say 10.13.6? I have a 12" MacBook9,1.
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode

Post by socratis »

No, I did mean 10.11.6, El Capitan. Maybe it's a 10.13.6 issue, we'll have to wait and see if there's anyone else that can confirm (or not) this behavior.

But you're the 2nd person with 10.13.6 that reports crashes in the VirtualBox process itself, with a Win10 guest. The first reported didn't have any saved states or full screen, but they were crashing on VM close. See VirtualBox crashes with Windows 10 guest. Again non-reproducible on 10.11.6.

Maybe you two can coordinate with each other and verify each other's behavior?
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by socratis »

I added the ticket information at your first post. But I don't think we've exhausted the investigation, and you didn't post any of the requested information in the other thread that I pointed you to, so I'm going to have to ask you here:

Post the output of the command:
  • 
    ls -laed \
      / \
      /Applications \
      /Applications/VirtualBox.app \
      /Applications/VirtualBox.app/Contents/MacOS/VBoxRT.dylib \
      /private \
      /private/etc \
      /private/etc/sudoers \
      /private/tmp
    
Post the output of the commands:
  • 
    ls -ale@ /Applications/
    ls -ale@ /Applications/Utilities/
At the same Terminal window, and with the VM completely shut down, enter the following command:
  • 
    VBoxBugReport "<VMname>"
where "<VMname>" is the actual name of the VM that just crashed VirtualBox. This will generate a "YYYY-MM-DD-hh-mm-ss-bugreport.tgz" file in the current directory (most probably your home directory). Attach that file in your response. See the "Upload attachment" tab below the reply form.
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by sddawson »

Thank you for the follow up. My apologies, I thought you were only talking to the OP in the other thread. Here is the requested information:

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StephensMacBook:~ steve$ ls -laed \
>   / \
>   /Applications \
>   /Applications/VirtualBox.app \
>   /Applications/VirtualBox.app/Contents/MacOS/VBoxRT.dylib \
>   /private \
>   /private/etc \
>   /private/etc/sudoers \
>   /private/tmp
drwxr-xr-x   31 root  wheel      992 17 Aug 08:34 /
drwxrwxr-x+ 128 root  admin     4096 19 Aug 17:44 /Applications
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  admin       96 16 Aug 14:48 /Applications/VirtualBox.app
-rw-r--r--    1 root  admin  5529952 14 Aug 22:04 /Applications/VirtualBox.app/Contents/MacOS/VBoxRT.dylib
drwxr-xr-x    6 root  wheel      192  3 Dec  2017 /private
drwxr-xr-x  121 root  wheel     3872 17 Aug 08:33 /private/etc
-r--r-----    1 root  wheel     2299  2 Aug  2015 /private/etc/sudoers
drwxrwxrwt   19 root  wheel      608 19 Aug 17:43 /private/tmp
StephensMacBook:~ steve$ ls -ale@ /Applications/
total 56
drwxrwxr-x+ 128 root   admin   4096 19 Aug 17:44 .
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x   31 root   wheel    992 17 Aug 08:34 ..
-rw-r--r--@   1 steve  admin  26628 17 Aug 08:35 .DS_Store
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
	com.apple.quarantine	   27 
-rw-r--r--    1 root   wheel      0 16 Jul  2017 .localized
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  4 Jul 17:32 1Password 7.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 19 Mar 07:17 1Password.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 18 Jul 09:12 2Do.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  7 Aug  2017 ACDSee Beta.app
drwxr-xr-x    5 root   admin    160 27 Apr 21:02 Adobe Creative Cloud
drwxrwxr-x@   5 root   admin    160 26 Jun 15:51 Adobe Lightroom CC
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
drwxrwxr-x@   5 root   admin    160 26 Jun 15:54 Adobe Lightroom Classic CC
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
drwxrwxr-x@  10 root   admin    320 26 Jun 15:49 Adobe Photoshop CC 2018
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  admin     96 30 May  2017 Affinity Photo Trial.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 18 Oct  2017 Alfred 3.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 27 Jul 17:29 AntiSleep.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Sep  2017 Aperture.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 App Store.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 21 Sep  2016 AppCleaner.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Automator.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 emily  admin     96 21 Nov  2017 Backup and Sync.app
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  staff     96 14 Aug 08:16 Bartender 3.app
	com.apple.metadata:_kMDItemUserTags	   42 
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 28 Jul 12:36 BetterTouchTool.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 21 Nov  2017 BusyContacts.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 25 Feb 11:30 Calcbot.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Calculator.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Calendar.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  staff     96 22 Feb  2017 Canary.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxrwxr-x    5 steve  admin    160 23 Sep  2016 Canon Utilities
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  9 Aug 22:05 Cardhop.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Chess.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 27 Apr 20:59 Cloak.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Contacts.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@  11 steve  admin    352 12 Aug  2016 Creative Kit 2016
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 DVD Player.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 16 May 16:20 DaisyDisk.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 31 Mar 15:03 Dashboard.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96  7 Jul  2016 DetectX.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Dictionary.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  admin     96 21 Sep  2016 DiskMaker X 6.app
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
	com.apple.metadata:kMDItemWhereFroms	   67 
	com.apple.metadata:kMDLabel_6scs2tw47edor6k4xi54mpn56i	  105 
	com.apple.metadata:kMDLabel_sxtrjg7qfzritcobhmmrvnlvt4	  105 
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
	com.dropbox.attributes	   83 
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96 16 Aug 15:44 Dropbox.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  2 Oct  2017 Dropshelf.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 10 Aug  2016 EasyFind.app
drwxrwxr-x    9 root   wheel    288  3 Jun 19:01 Epson Software
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96 23 Jul 18:09 Evernote.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 10 Aug  2016 External Editors For Photos.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 FaceTime.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 17 Aug 08:35 Fantastical 2.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 12 Aug  2016 Filters for Photos.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 22 Jun 10:24 Final Cut Pro.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 27 Apr 21:02 Flux.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Font Book.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxrwxr-x    3 root   admin     96 30 Jun 17:40 GarageBand.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  admin     96  5 Mar  2016 Garmin Dash Cam™ Player.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 27 Jun  2017 Garmin Express.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96 12 Feb  2016 HandBrake.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Aug  2016 HardwareGrowler.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 31 Mar 15:03 Image Capture.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Jun 18:31 Keynote.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 31 Mar 15:03 Launchpad.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Jun 19:27 Letter Opener Lite.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  staff     96 30 Nov  2016 LilyView.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  8 Jul 15:36 Live View.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  admin     96 15 Jun  2017 Luminar.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  admin     96 25 Jun  2017 Lyn.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Mail.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    9 steve  admin    288 29 Jun 11:54 MapDownloader
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Maps.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 10 Aug  2016 Media Inspector.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 10 Aug  2016 Media-Info.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Messages.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root   admin     92 10 Mar  2017 Microsoft Silverlight -> /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Silverlight.plugin/Contents/Resources/Silverlight Preferences.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Mission Control.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  staff     96 24 Jul 12:11 Moneydance.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 16 May 16:20 Moom.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  6 Mar 15:09 MyHarmony.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Notes.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Jun 18:29 Numbers.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96  2 Aug 15:03 PDF Expert.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 28 Dec  2015 PDFpen.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Jun 18:33 Pages.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Photo Booth.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Photos.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 11 Sep  2017 Picktorial.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 18 Jul 09:13 Pixelmator.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 19 Oct  2017 PopClip.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Preview.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 QuickTime Player.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  8 Jul 15:36 Recording.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Reminders.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxrwxrwx    5 steve  admin    160 25 Jul 09:30 Roon.app
drwx------   15 steve  wheel    480 27 Nov  2016 SCSC
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 Safari.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 10 Aug  2016 ScreenSharingMenulet.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 31 Mar 15:03 Siri.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 21 Jun 14:51 Skitch.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96 19 Jul  2016 Skype.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 16 Aug  2017 Sonos.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 24 May 13:08 Soulver.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 12 Aug 09:21 Spark.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 31 May 17:29 Speedtest.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 emily  staff     96  1 Feb  2018 Spotify.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 Stickies.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96  9 Aug  2016 Subler.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  8 Jul 15:36 Surveillance Station Client.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 System Preferences.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96 21 Dec  2017 TIDAL.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 22 Nov  2016 Tapes Screencast Sharing.appdownload
	com.apple.FinderInfo	   32 
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 27 Jun 11:07 Tapes.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 25 Jan  2018 TeamViewer.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96  3 Jun 14:29 TextEdit.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96  5 Jun 18:31 TextExpander.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 17 Jun 18:29 The Unarchiver.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  7 Aug 23:08 Things3.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 31 Mar 15:03 Time Machine.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  8 Jul 15:36 Timeline.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96  7 Mar  2016 Transmission.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 19 Aug 17:44 Tweetbot.app
drwxr-xr-x+  28 root   admin    896 15 Aug 18:45 Utilities
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  admin     96  3 Jun  2016 VLC.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   admin     96 16 Aug 14:48 VirtualBox.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  4 May 09:00 WiFi Explorer.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 13 Aug 19:19 Xcode.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 12 Jul 21:54 iBooks.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96 12 Apr 14:47 iMovie.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 root   wheel     96  7 Aug 23:08 iNet Network Scanner.app
drwxr-xr-x    3 steve  staff     96  1 Mar 10:08 iStat Menus.app
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root   wheel     96 11 Jul 17:18 iTunes.app
	com.apple.rootless	    0 
drwxr-xr-x@   3 steve  staff     96 13 Jun 18:56 uBar.app
	com.apple.quarantine	   57 
StephensMacBook:~ steve$ ls -ale@ /Applications/Utilities/
total 16
drwxr-xr-x+  28 root  admin   896 15 Aug 18:45 .
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxrwxr-x+ 128 root  admin  4096 19 Aug 17:44 ..
 0: group:everyone deny delete
-rw-rw-r--    1 root  admin  6148 22 Sep  2016 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--    1 root  wheel     0 16 Jul  2017 .localized
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Activity Monitor.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x   16 root  wheel   512 27 Jun 19:12 Adobe Application Manager
drwxr-xr-x   19 root  admin   608 27 Apr 21:00 Adobe Creative Cloud
drwxrwxr-x    3 root  admin    96 27 Apr 21:04 Adobe Creative Cloud Experience
drwxr-xr-x   19 root  admin   608 27 Jun 19:12 Adobe Creative Cloud_4.6.0.384
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel    96 15 Aug 18:45 Adobe Flash Player Install Manager.app
drwxrwxr-x    7 root  admin   224 27 Jun 19:12 Adobe Installers
drwxrwxr-x    5 root  admin   160 18 Jun 18:57 Adobe Sync
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 AirPort Utility.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 Audio MIDI Setup.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 Bluetooth File Exchange.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 Boot Camp Assistant.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 ColorSync Utility.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Console.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Digital Color Meter.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 Disk Utility.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Grab.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Grapher.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
 0: group:everyone deny delete
drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 Keychain Access.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Migration Assistant.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Script Editor.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 System Information.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96  3 Jun 14:29 Terminal.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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drwxr-xr-x@   3 root  wheel    96 12 Jul 21:54 VoiceOver Utility.app
	com.apple.rootless	   0 
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by socratis »

I never realized that there was an option to download the whole Apple Store in one's computer! :D
Here are the 3rd party applications that you have installed. One of them is conflicting...

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1Password 7.app
1Password.app
2Do.app
ACDSee Beta.app
Adobe Creative Cloud
Adobe Lightroom CC
Adobe Lightroom Classic CC
Adobe Photoshop CC 2018
Affinity Photo Trial.app
Alfred 3.app
AntiSleep.app
Aperture.app
AppCleaner.app
Backup and Sync.app
Bartender 3.app
BetterTouchTool.app
BusyContacts.app
Calcbot.app
Canary.app
Canon Utilities
Cardhop.app
Cloak.app
Creative Kit 2016
DaisyDisk.app
DetectX.app
DiskMaker X 6.app
Dropbox.app
Dropshelf.app
EasyFind.app
Epson Software
Evernote.app
External Editors For Photos.app
Fantastical 2.app
Filters for Photos.app
Final Cut Pro.app
Flux.app
Garmin Dash Cam™ Player.app
Garmin Express.app
HandBrake.app
HardwareGrowler.app
Letter Opener Lite.app
LilyView.app
Live View.app
Luminar.app
Lyn.app
MapDownloader
Media Inspector.app
Media-Info.app
Microsoft Silverlight -> /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Silverlight.plugin/Contents/Resources/Silverlight Preferences.app
Moneydance.app
Moom.app
MyHarmony.app
PDF Expert.app
PDFpen.app
Picktorial.app
Pixelmator.app
PopClip.app
Recording.app
Roon.app
SCSC
ScreenSharingMenulet.app
Skitch.app
Skype.app
Sonos.app
Soulver.app
Spark.app
Speedtest.app
Spotify.app
Subler.app
Surveillance Station Client.app
TIDAL.app
Tapes Screencast Sharing.appdownload
Tapes.app
TeamViewer.app
TextExpander.app
The Unarchiver.app
Things3.app
Timeline.app
Transmission.app
Tweetbot.app
VLC.app
VirtualBox.app
WiFi Explorer.app
Xcode.app
iNet Network Scanner.app
iStat Menus.app
uBar.app


Adobe Application Manager
Adobe Creative Cloud
Adobe Creative Cloud Experience
Adobe Creative Cloud_4.6.0.384
Adobe Flash Player Install Manager.app
Adobe Installers
Adobe Sync
I have no clue absolutely whatsover which that application might be. It's going to take a lot of digging into what each application does and how it might be conflicting with VirtualBox. Also known as "go figure!"...

I'm not sure when (or if) I'm going to have time to go through the whole list of what you have installed. It may be easier to go with which applications you have not installed! :D

Your permissions (miraculously) look fine, so do the rest of the diagnostics. So, it seems that it's one of the applications that you have installed which is causing the interaction crash. I think you're going to have to do some searching/analyzing...
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by sddawson »

Thanks. Yes, I have quite a few apps installed but, of course, most of them are not in use at any one time. I guess I should concentrate on the ones that have any sort of "hooks" into the OS. Might clone a VM and copy it to a brand new user, which at least will rule out most things that run automatically for my main user.

That said, even if there is a conflict with something, there must still be a bug that causes the crash. Is it likely anyone will pick up the ticket and look into the crash log?
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Re: Can't use Win10 guest after fullscreen mode (#17935)

Post by socratis »

sddawson wrote:I guess I should concentrate on the ones that have any sort of "hooks" into the OS.
Definitely.
sddawson wrote:Might clone a VM and copy it to a brand new user, which at least will rule out most things that run automatically for my main user.
D'on! :shock:
I should have thought of and proposed that! It's the easiest troubleshooting technique, and the thing is that I've used it plenty of times in the past! You don't even need to create a new user, you already have one; the Guest. ;)
sddawson wrote:Is it likely anyone will pick up the ticket and look into the crash log?
If you want your potential ticket to have any traction, you should do your part to help the developers. I can tell you that if someone comes to me with a list of a hundred applications, telling me "hey, something conflicts", chances are that I can solve a hundred other small issues, rather that wasting my time tracking down that single conflict.

You could narrow the application down. Then you open a ticket (if it's reproducible) and say "Application XYZ conflicts with the save state in fullscreen mode". Your chances of getting the conflict fixed just increased exponentially! And you got to do the same for the author of application XYZ of course...
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