VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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Just checking - I bought a Lenovo Thinkcenter M73. The ad said Windows 7 Pro. But when it arrived, it was Windows 8!

I have disk images (VHD) that I made with eCS 2.1 installed. I made these under Windows 7 Pro

My questions:

1. Will VirtualBox work under Windows 8 with eCS?
2. Can I use my VHD directly or do I have to make a new one under Windows 8?
3. Are there any problems running eCS under Windows 8?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by mpack »

If your question is: are VirtualBox VMs created on a Win7 host portable to a Win8 host? then the answer is yes.

But you would move the entire VM, not just the main disk (VHD).
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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Thanks.

I was thinking I'd create a New VM using the VHD.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by mpack »

That would be a bad idea.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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Would you explain please - what is the "entire VM" vs the VHD?
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by dlharper »

The Virtual Hard Disk is a single file (which will be one of *.vdi, *.vhd, *.vmdk, etc). The entire VM also includes the *.vbox file which is a file specifying all other hardware details of the VM apart from the contents of the hard disk.

If the VHD is the hard disk you originally created with your VM, then the two files will be in the same directory, so copy the whole directory, not just the one file.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by Yoda »

I have created new setups for eCS using an existing VDI file many times, and it always works well,
as long as you can remember the settings, you might have changed - but even if you don't, it almost always
will boot, but something might not work, if you got it wrong.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by mpack »

Nobody has said it can't work. The purpose of the .vbox file is to do the remembering for you, while at the same time avoiding issues caused by changing DMI, MAC addresses etc. I can't think of many reasons to do things the hard way.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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I will probably download the newest version of VB. That will NOT be the same as the version I created the VHD with.

So you are saying that the VHD and VBOX files will still work from an old to a newer version?
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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The .vbox file is at least as likely to be compatible with future VBox versions as the VHD file is, given that the latter format is controlled by Microsoft.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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Well, thanks. I'm going to try to set it up today.

I'll post the results here.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

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Terrible results. It turns out that the new machine is also Windows 7 Prof.

But here is what happened.
=========

Got a new computer - Lenovo ThinkCenter M73 small footprint (4GB RAM, Intel i3 CPU, 500 GB Hard Drive)

Booted up to Windows 7 Professional - Went to the BIOS and set the Hardware Virtualization "enabled"

I downloaded and installed VirtualBox version 4.3.14r95030
I also downloaded and installed the latest extension Pack.

I want to create an eComStstion Virtual machine

I have 3 files that I FTP-ed from another computer - also Windows 7 Prof.

(1) - Oz2Virt.zip - compressed file contains Oz2Virt.VDI
(2) - Oz2Virt.vbox

I unzipped the above and got

(3) - Oz2Virt.VDI

I made a folder on my desktop named Oz2Virt with the 3 above files.

Then I made a NEW Virtual machine - I used the above VDI as an "existing" file .

Name: Oz2Virt
RAM: 1590
Video: 7MB
Storage: Dynamically allocated
Network: Bridged adapter



VirtualBox - Error in supR3HardenedWinReSpawn
==========

(X) - Error relaunching VirtualBox VM process 5

Command line: '81954AF5-4D2F-31EB-A142-B7AF187A1C41-suplib-2ndchild--comment Oz2Virt --startvm b843ad4f-0383-43bc-a582-70ffa466d75d--no-startvm-errormsgbox' (rc=-104)

[Abort]

==========


I thought there might be a problem with the uid.

So I made a (full) clone of Oz2Virt and called it Oz2Main
When I try to start this, I get similar results



VirtualBox - Error in supR3HardenedWinReSpawn
==========

(X) - Error relaunching VirtualBox VM process 5

Command line: '81954AF5-4D2F-31EB-A142-B7AF187A1C41-suplib-2ndchild--comment Oz2Main --startvm b843ad4f-0383-43bc-a582-70ffa466d75d--no-startvm-errormsgbox' (rc=-104)

[Abort]
==========

Click [Abort] gives another popup

VirtualBox - Error

(X) Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Oz2Main.

The virtual machine 'Oz2Main' has terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1.

> Details

[OK] [Copy]

==========

Click Details gives


Result Code:
E_FAIL (0x80004005)
Component:
Machine
Interface:
IMachine {480cf695-2d8d-4256-9c7c-cce4184fa048}

[OK] [Copy]

==========

Somehow I get another popup

Oz2Virt: Starting VM

===> (Big arrow) Creating process for virtual machine "Oz2Virt" (GUI/Qt) ... (1/2)

(percent graph) stuck at 0%

==========

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.

But the error messages don't help me figure out what it is.

Or maybe it's something else.

Can anybody help?
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by socratis »

It is a well known (by now) problem with 4.3.14 (don't let the title fool you, it is not just antivirus):
- 4.3.14 conflicts with anti-virus packages.
Possible solution: Test the 4.3.15 release quoted in the thread or downgrade to 4.3.12.
Do NOT send me Personal Messages (PMs) for troubleshooting, they are simply deleted.
Do NOT reply with the "QUOTE" button, please use the "POST REPLY", at the bottom of the form.
If you obfuscate any information requested, I will obfuscate my response. These are virtual UUIDs, not real ones.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by mpack »

No more discussion of the 4.3.14 problems here please - one issue per topic. Read the thread that Socratis linked you to.
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Re: VB with eCS on Windows 8-does it work?

Post by jjurbaneCS »

Sorry, I didn't realize it was a VB problem. I thought I did something wrong.
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