Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby michaln » 23. Oct 2012, 09:45

loukingjr wrote:Well, what I have seen more than once in the forum is problems with AMD graphics.

You're probably reading very selectively. There are problems with Nvidias, and there are even more problems with Intel graphics. The problems are just different.

Everything depends on the combination of host OS, host graphics hardware, host drivers, and guest OS. It's not pretty.

And I have also seen more than once people/moderators recommending getting the latest Nvidia drivers for the host to possibly solve a graphics issue.

That is standard practice, because 3D in general is not what one might call "stable". It is unfortunately rather common that a different driver revision fixes/breaks this or that.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 23. Oct 2012, 10:48

michaln wrote:
loukingjr wrote:Well, what I have seen more than once in the forum is problems with AMD graphics.

You're probably reading very selectively. There are problems with Nvidias, and there are even more problems with Intel graphics. The problems are just different.

Everything depends on the combination of host OS, host graphics hardware, host drivers, and guest OS. It's not pretty.

And I have also seen more than once people/moderators recommending getting the latest Nvidia drivers for the host to possibly solve a graphics issue.

That is standard practice, because 3D in general is not what one might call "stable". It is unfortunately rather common that a different driver revision fixes/breaks this or that.

Don't misunderstand me. I use and recommend VirtualBox over any other Virtualization software. I own both VMware's Fusion and Parallel's Desktop for the Mac. It just "feels" around the forum that the Mac version is the "toe-headed stepchild"of VB. It's just frustration over the fact that no sooner does VB work well with an OS that a new version of the same OS breaks it. I jumped to the conclusion that when it was stated that VB 4.2.~ supports xorg 1.13, that included hardware acceleration., i.e. Ubuntu 12.10 support. I do understand that hardware and/or software changes will break things. It is just for that reason that I ask questions to make sure I didn't do something wrong or if a particular guest OS is no longer working correctly. Perhaps when there is a change in VirtualBox it would be helpful to post not only the changes but what may be a problem such as Ubuntu 12.10 not working with hardware acceleration.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby Craig Mason » 23. Oct 2012, 22:02

I was able to get 3D working with a stable mouse cursor using the following:

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sudo apt-add-repository ppa:a7x/bug1041063
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=2:1.13.0-0ubuntu5+bug1041063.0

sudo modprobe vboxvideo

logout, login

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/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -c -p


Tada... not a long term solution, but at least unity3D is working again and windows aren't jumping everywhere.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby Rage Kage » 24. Oct 2012, 22:38

Craig Mason wrote:I was able to get 3D working with a stable mouse cursor using the following:

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sudo apt-add-repository ppa:a7x/bug1041063
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=2:1.13.0-0ubuntu5+bug1041063.0

sudo modprobe vboxvideo

logout, login

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/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -c -p


Tada... not a long term solution, but at least unity3D is working again and windows aren't jumping everywhere.


Tried this, but according to the Launchad page for the patch (~a7x/+archive/bug1041063/) that version (2:1.13.0-0ubuntu5+bug1041063.0) doesn't exist. However, 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6+bug1041063.0 does... and installing that does fix the mouse jumping around, but still unable to get 3D support working.

I'm not sure if you just mean that Unity3D runs (without 3D acceleration) or that you got 3D acceleration working.

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/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -c -p
OpenGL vendor string:   VMware, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
OpenGL version string:  2.1 Mesa 9.0

Not software rendered:    no
Not blacklisted:          yes
GLX fbconfig:             yes
GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
GL npot or rect textures: yes

Compiz supported:         no



I'm going to keep trying. I'm running the 64 bit version, maybe that's part of the problem?
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby Craig Mason » 25. Oct 2012, 12:20

I know there was a Ubuntu update released, so I had to specify the exact version at the time. It looks like the maintainer has updated his package.

I should add a correction - Compiz was accelerated, but I'm not certain was getting full 3D. This bug seems to indicate that any actual 3D usage crashes the machine.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby bulletmark » 27. Oct 2012, 01:16

Note the comment today by Frank Mehnert on the new VB version 4.2.4: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52327.

In short, Ubuntu 12.10 guests 3D is still broken in 4.2.4 but they are working on it.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby coder » 13. Nov 2012, 18:04

So close, I almost have it working in 3D. Only problem I have is when you click the desktop unity and the open windows disappear. They are still there it appears to be a rendering issue. Click in the right place and they all reappear.

It's nice and fast and it will rock when this rendering glitch is fixed.

Host OSX 1.8.2, VB 4.2.5 with 4.2.5 additions.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby Jeffrey04 » 23. Dec 2012, 12:31

coder wrote:So close, I almost have it working in 3D. Only problem I have is when you click the desktop unity and the open windows disappear. They are still there it appears to be a rendering issue. Click in the right place and they all reappear.

It's nice and fast and it will rock when this rendering glitch is fixed.

Host OSX 1.8.2, VB 4.2.5 with 4.2.5 additions.


I am using VB 4.2.6, and is suffering the same rendering issue as you mentioned :(

My host: OS X 10.6.8
Graphic card: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
VB Guest Addition: installed (from menu)
VB 3D Acceleration: Enabled
Video memory allocated: 128MB
Allocated memory: 2GB
My guest: Ubuntu 12.10 Server, and installed Unity with the following command (is this relevant)
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sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends


vboxvideo seems to be loaded properly
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jeffrey04@Gariben:~$ lsmod | grep vbox
vboxvideo              12539  2
drm                   230463  3 vboxvideo
vboxsf                 42408  1
vboxguest             202353  8 vboxsf


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jeffrey04@Gariben:~$ /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
OpenGL Warning: glFlushVertexArrayRangeNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glVertexArrayRangeNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerInputNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerOutputNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerParameterfNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerParameterfvNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerParameteriNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glCombinerParameterivNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glFinalCombinerInputNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetCombinerInputParameterfvNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetCombinerInputParameterivNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetCombinerOutputParameterfvNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetCombinerOutputParameterivNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetFinalCombinerInputParameterfvNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetFinalCombinerInputParameterivNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glDeleteFencesNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glFinishFenceNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGenFencesNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glGetFenceivNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glIsFenceNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glSetFenceNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL Warning: glTestFenceNV not found in mesa table
OpenGL vendor string:   Humper
OpenGL renderer string: Chromium
OpenGL version string:  2.1 Chromium 1.9

Not software rendered:    yes
Not blacklisted:          yes
GLX fbconfig:             yes
GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
GL npot or rect textures: yes
GL vertex program:        yes
GL fragment program:      yes
GL vertex buffer object:  yes
GL framebuffer object:    yes
GL version is 1.4+:       yes

Unity 3D supported:       yes


EDIT: got it somehow fixed by disabling "framebuffer object" settings for opengl in ccsm according to bug report 11107 comment 43
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 23. Dec 2012, 16:53

I don't know what people are doing but I can't get 3D to work on my iMac. It does have AMD graphics.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby george_v_reilly » 19. Apr 2013, 00:20

Following the instructions at http://askubuntu.com/a/214968/956 made 12.10 bearable.
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