Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby adasiko » 20. Oct 2012, 10:35

bulletmark wrote:
adasiko wrote:1) apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-vmware
On my system, that also wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all.

It is metapackage, and not provide any drivers itself and can be safely deleted.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby Rui Baptista » 20. Oct 2012, 13:15

adasiko's 20. Oct 2012, 08:19 solution did work for me, thank you 8)
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 20. Oct 2012, 17:56

I tried the "fix" in Gnome Remix which is basically Ubuntu 12.10 with Gnome 3.6.1 instead of Unity. Adding vboxvideo to /etc/modules actually breaks it. It works without adding it although I did have to remove the vmware packages first. The thing is, with 3D working it is still slow and videos, say on YouTube, are slow and jerky. Fallback mode seems fine. It seems there is no way to run Unity or Gnome3 with effects in any reasonable way.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby adasiko » 21. Oct 2012, 07:15

loukingjr wrote:It seems there is no way to run Unity or Gnome3 with effects in any reasonable way.

I don't know anything about Ubuntu Gnome Remix, but I had installed Gnome by "apt-get install gnome-shell" and I have not problem with it. (gnome-shell version is 3.6.1)
And I use lightdm, not gdm. Maybe problem in gdm... No, gdm works without problems too.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 21. Oct 2012, 07:22

adasiko wrote:
loukingjr wrote:It seems there is no way to run Unity or Gnome3 with effects in any reasonable way.

I don't know anything about Ubuntu Gnome Remix, but I had installed Gnome by "apt-get install gnome-shell" and I have not problem with it. (gnome-shell version is 3.6.1)

actually I now have Gnome Remix which is 3.6.1 also and I have Ubuntu 12.10 with Gnome-shell 3.6.1 and both are very slow.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 21. Oct 2012, 08:03

I think this all comes down to 3D, Compiz nor openGL have ever worked very well on Mac hosts.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby bulletmark » 21. Oct 2012, 09:31

adasiko wrote:1) apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-vmware
2) install guest addions from the .iso
3) add "vboxvideo" in /etc/modules
And everything is fine :)

Did all that and Unity still crashes within secs. Gnome-shell also corrupts.

I have been waiting for VB 4.2.2 so I can run a ubuntu 12.10 guest. Seems I have to wait for VB 4.2.3 :(
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 21. Oct 2012, 11:28

bulletmark wrote:
adasiko wrote:1) apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-vmware
2) install guest addions from the .iso
3) add "vboxvideo" in /etc/modules
And everything is fine :)

Did all that and Unity still crashes within secs. Gnome-shell also corrupts.

I have been waiting for VB 4.2.2 so I can run a ubuntu 12.10 guest. Seems I have to wait for VB 4.2.3 :(

don't add vboxvideo to /etc/modules and at least gnome-shell will work.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 21. Oct 2012, 15:04

it turns out there is another vmware file installed called libxatracker1 which once removed makes things like videos a little more useable.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby jgreat » 21. Oct 2012, 20:23

I found a bug report and workaround for the Mouse jumping issue: Ubuntu launchpad bug 1041063

The problem appears to be with evdev and the workaround is to run these commands in a term:
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xinput set-prop "VirtualBox mouse integration" "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 0.5 0 0 0 0.5 0 0 0 1.0
xinput set-prop "VirtualBox mouse integration" "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 1.0 0 0 0 1.0 0 0 0 1.0


This fixes the mouse jumping issue for me, but even with removing xserver-xorg-video-vmware, libxatracker1 and forcing the load of vboxvideo I still have a very unstable guest.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby bulletmark » 22. Oct 2012, 00:37

loukingjr wrote:don't add vboxvideo to /etc/modules and at least gnome-shell will work.


Yes, leaving that module out means that both Unity and Gnome Shell "work", but only in 2D which as the title of this thread says is unusable.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 22. Oct 2012, 01:17

bulletmark wrote:
loukingjr wrote:don't add vboxvideo to /etc/modules and at least gnome-shell will work.


Yes, leaving that module out means that both Unity and Gnome Shell "work", but only in 2D which as the title of this thread says is unusable.

actually that's not true. gnome-shell works in 3d with it's effects. I'd be happy to post a screenshot. not sure about Unity because I replaced it with MATE.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 22. Oct 2012, 01:31

Ubuntu 12.10 + Gnome-Shell 3.6.1
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works but is slow.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby bulletmark » 22. Oct 2012, 01:48

loukingjr wrote:works but is slow.

It is slow because you are not using 3D acceleration. That is the point of this thread.

You are still seeing visual effects etc because Ubuntu 12.10 has dropped Unity-2D completely and now always invokes Unity 3D. Now, when 3D acceleration is not available, Unity falls back to using llvmpipe. So it looks exactly the same, just slow. Run "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" to see if you are really using 3D. Can run that in gnome-shell also.

PS: I also removed that other vmware package libxatracker1 referenced earlier here, rebooted, installed guest additions from VB menu, rebooted. Still get 2D performance. Added vboxvideo module and do get 3D but completely unstable.
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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable

Postby loukingjr » 22. Oct 2012, 02:29

bulletmark wrote:
loukingjr wrote:works but is slow.

It is slow because you are not using 3D acceleration. That is the point of this thread.

You are still seeing visual effects etc because Ubuntu 12.10 has dropped Unity-2D completely and now always invokes Unity 3D. Now, when 3D acceleration is not available, Unity falls back to using llvmpipe. So it looks exactly the same, just slow. Run "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" to see if you are really using 3D. Can run that in gnome-shell also.

PS: I also removed that other vmware package libxatracker1 referenced earlier here, rebooted, installed guest additions from VB menu, rebooted. Still get 2D performance. Added vboxvideo module and do get 3D but completely unstable.

That might be the case if I even had Unity installed. What the screenshots show is Gnome Remix which is gnome-shell only. If it had to drop to 2D it would show so called Gnome Classic and would show "Applications Places" in the top panel. I'm kind of familiar with the point of the thread seeing I started it.

edit: btw, There are no llvm libraries or a llvmpipe to fall back to installed in Gnome Remix nor is there a "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" file to run.
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