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3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 14:11
by ingo2
Just one question:

since Wheezy upgraded xorg-server to 1.12, 3D-acceleration (GNOME-shell) no longer works. While VBox is supposed to support xorg-server 1.12:
Is this a temporarly bug in Wheezy or is something in the guest-additions missing?

With best regards,
Ingo

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 14:40
by Perryg
What version of VirtualBox are you using?

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 14:52
by ingo2
Perryg wrote:What version of VirtualBox are you using?
4.1.14 for sure. Host is Squeeze-amd64

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 15:07
by Perryg
Changelog:
Version 4.1.10 (2012-03-13)
Linux Additions: added support for X.Org Server 1.12

Are you sure the guest additions are up to date and are from VirtualBox.org in case the Debian folks have not updated their version yet?

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 16:59
by ingo2
Perryg wrote:Changelog:
Are you sure the guest additions are up to date and are from VirtualBox.org in case the Debian folks have not updated their version yet?
I do know that X-server 1.12 should be supported by VBox 4.1.14.

Wheezy had VBox-(additions) before the xserver update in version 4.1.12. Then x-server was updated and VBox-guest-x11 was removed., So I installed Oracle-Additions 4.1.14 from the contained iso to match my host version of VBox. But this did not bring back 3D-acceleration.

Today Debian moved VBox 4.1.14 to Testing and I un-installed Oracle guest-additions and installed Wheezy's packages:

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		virtualbox-guest-utils
		virtualbox-guest-x11
		virtualbox-guest-dkms
But now 3D-support is still missing.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 17:10
by Perryg
I don't know what to tell you. I know that I use the VirtualBox.org version of VirtualBox and the associated guest additions and have no issue with Gnome3 or 3D acceleration in debian based hosts or guests.

I also know that it is usually not a good idea to mix the different builds such as Debain VirtualBox and VirtualBox guest additions. Different distros take the source code and change it to the way they think it should be. This makes it impossible to support.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 18:53
by ingo2
Please consider this just as a question, not a complaint. I also have other VM's that perform fine with 3D-acceleration here.

The only exception is Wheezy-(amd64) guest since X-server was updated to 1.12. It was working fine with X-server 1.11. I tried wit both, native Oracle-addons 4.1.14 and Debian version 4.1.14 - both suffering from 3D-support. From that one would suspect that Wheezy is the root cause.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 19:03
by Perryg
From that one would suspect that Wheezy is the root cause.
True except it works for me. I have only seen one other complaint about this as well and it may have been a Debian guest, but don't remember.

Post the guests log file (as an attachment) so we can see if anything shows there.

Also remember you can always raise a ticket at bugtracker.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 20:05
by ingo2
Perryg wrote:
From that one would suspect that Wheezy is the root cause.
True except it works for me.
Are you really sure? This happended only 2 or 3 days ago and only with Wheezy! Until Thursday Wheezy had X-server 1.11 and 3D was working fine (with Debian's additions v 4.1.12). Friday or Saturday VBox 4.1.12 was completely removed from testing repository and X-server pushed to 1.12, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox.html. So I then installed Oracle-additions 4.1.14 on Sunday and was unable to get GNOME desktop (3D), just "GNOME-classic".

Today VBox 4.1.14 was moved into testing and I did:
1) just update the existing system, then
2) un-install Oracle-additions
3) install Debian-additions
with no 3D-support either.

I do attach the latest of 4 guest log's. Unfortunately I cannot attach > 128 kiB at once. Let me know if previous logs are required.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 20:17
by Perryg
Compiling at the moment on the host that has my SID build. I'll double check here as soon as it is done.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 21. May 2012, 20:51
by ingo2
Hi,

found this Debian bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673437. Appears that it wasd observed once but not yet confimed by others

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 22. May 2012, 01:03
by Perryg
OK I was able to re-create this on a new install.

Look in the syslog and see if the following statement is logged during a time when you tried to use Gnome3.
You may even be able to see the cause in the ~/.xsessions-errors file

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WARNING:  Failed to start app: Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/at-spi-registryd" 
Also saying that the file does not exist.
You can more than likely fix this by removing gnome-shell and gnome-panel, then install them again, then log out and back in with gnome.
Note: backup the guest to be safe as always.
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Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 22. May 2012, 09:32
by loukingjr
for what it's worth, I couldn't get the Xubuntu 12.10 .iso to boot with 3D enabled. I haven't tried enabling it since I installed it.

edit: seems to work with 3d enabled after install.

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 22. May 2012, 12:58
by ingo2
Perryg wrote:OK I was able to re-create this on a new install.
You can more than likely fix this by removing gnome-shell and gnome-panel, then install them again, then log out and back in with gnome.
Note: backup the guest to be safe as always.
Following your guidelines I could confirm the enty in syslog about missing "/usr/lib/at-spi-registryd". So I did

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apt-get-install --reinstall gnome-shell gnome-panel
but without success. It appears that this 3D-problem is minor in Sid, because in that case it would have prevented VBox 4.1.14 to migrate to Wheezy. Probably Wheezy-specific???

After trying the above, I deleted all existing ~/.xsession-errors files, shut down and booted again into Gnome. I do attach the ~/.xsession-errors file newly createt with this single boot and login into Gnome-(shell).

Re: 3D-acceleration in Wheezy since xorg-server 1.12 broken

Posted: 22. May 2012, 13:02
by ingo2
Sorry the attachment comes here