Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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Hello all!

If I'm in the wrong area PLEASE point me to the right sub-forum.

I'm looking for Help concerning internet access on a Win 98 SE guest. I found a couple of tutorials on this and I followed them but I am still hitting a wall.

I'm running Robolinux 10.4 Cinnamon and all of the guest that I have setup are working great with the exception of Win 98 SE, Win Me, and Win 95.

Within my adapter 1 my settings are as follows the Adapter type is to PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A), Promiscuous Mode set to Deny, and Cable Connected set to On. I have tried these on NAT, NAT Network, and Bridged Adapter.

Under normal circumstances I would not give these older OSes a thought but I actually provide support for some companies that need backwards compatibility to internal company workflows on their older hardware.

At this point, I am thinking it could be my actual network card. So I'm wondering if I install an older secondary or third network card possibly 3Com or something that NDIS was compatible with that might make a difference.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for any comments.

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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What do you mean "no Internet"?

I think that your problem is similar to "No internet for a WinXP guest". Read it and see if it fits your problem...
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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@socratis

Thanks for the reply.

Honestly, I hadn't made it that far with the browser BUT it is something I had not considered so your suggestion is duly noted.

In retro spec I should been more clear. My TCP settings were not being loaded.

I had read some place that the dial-up adapter was needed for pulling in DHCP info. So that was where I was stuck.

I was able to statically load the settings last night but my ideal situation would be to loaded automatically when I am at a client site.

Thanks

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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UBotBuddy wrote:I was able to statically load the settings last night
So, that mean that VirtualBox's work is done.
UBotBuddy wrote:but my ideal situation would be to loaded automatically
That would be a "How to configure Win98", not VirtualBox. Take a look at the Windows Guests HowTo section, you may find something relevant.
UBotBuddy wrote:at a client site
Your clients still use Win98? :shock:
What are you visiting, DOOM ][ conventions? :)

I wish I could help you with the configuration, but it's been too many years since I've seen Win98, I never actually had to deal with them, I was NT from the beginning. Check the HowTo section, or someone else with better expertise on the subject can help you.


PS. I changed your title from "NAT, NAT Network, Bridged Adapter Oh My!" to "Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing", to better attract other helper users.
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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LOL...Doom. I actually play the old Doom on my Raspberry Pi setup. Too funny.

Actually, I have two customers that pay me to keep their Win 98 computers operational. Their computers run a custom built application for interfacing to a manufacturing machine.

The network adapter that I changed was inside of Win 98.

No problem on the Title change.

I'll check out that links!

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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BTW, moving this from "Linux Hosts" to "Windows Guests", much more suited audience...
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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For my Windows 98SE guest I have the networking set as Intel PRO/1000MT Desktop bridged to the wired interface in my iMac. Intel's driver download says there are drivers available for Windows 98, 98SE and Me.

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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andyp73 wrote:For my Windows 98SE guest I have the networking set as Intel PRO/1000MT Desktop
Why? Aren't the defaults working? And how are you going to get the Intel drivers installed?
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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socratis wrote:Why? Aren't the defaults working?
No idea! There was probably some issue or other getting the default adapter to work but I can't remember that far back, I have slept several times since then!
socratis wrote:And how are you going to get the Intel drivers installed?
I made an ISO of the Intel installer and loaded it through the virtual optical drive.

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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@Andyp73

Hey Andy. I read in one of the tuts to create a virtual cd-rom iso and mount it. Well, how did you do that?

I can burn an actual CD but I would rather do it virtually.

Thanks

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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UBotBuddy wrote:I read in one of the tuts to create a virtual cd-rom iso and mount it. Well, how did you do that?
On macOS I do it using an application called Keka. On Windows I used ISO Recorder.

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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UBotBuddy wrote: Hey Andy. I read in one of the tuts to create a virtual cd-rom iso and mount it. Well, how did you do that?
Just use any of the free and commercially available CD burning apps. I use ImgBurn, which was free when I downloaded it, I don't know about now. Any of these apps can create ISO files instead of burning a physical CD/DVD.
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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Excuse me everyone, but why go 3rd party software hunting? When you could use the one that comes built-in with VirtualBox?

Just click on the CD icon in the VM (if it's running), or on the [OpticalDrive] in the VM Settings Details pane in VirtualBox Manager, and select "Create ad hoc VISO". Select your files and you're done.
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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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I guess I'm a bit thick here.

I still don't see anything close to that. When you say VM settings is that different from VirtualBox Manager?

Thanks

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Re: Configure Win98 for DHCP addressing

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I'm sorry, I meant VirtualBox Manager, showing the Details pane, click on the [Optical Drive]. I've edited my previous post to reflect that. Thank you for you seeing that.

But why go crazy? It's not the NIC that's the problem. I honestly don't like changing the defaults, seriously now.
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