3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

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brock
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3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by brock »

As the subject says, I'm running Win10 64-bit guest on a Win7 64-bit host. 3D rendering is not working. Apps that attempt it exhibit some combination of crashing, showing a blank window, or saying they encountered a problem. Below are the specs and output from Novabench. Attached is a VB log. Thanks for any help!

VirtualBox Version 5.2.12 r122591
Guest Additions 5.2.12.0 (what shipped with the above release I guess)

Guest OS Novabench results:

Novabench Score: 370
5/18/2018 1:16 PM
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro for Workstations
CPU: Intel Xeon X5660 running at 2.79GHz
GPU: VirtualBox Graphics Adapter for Windows 8+

CPU Score: 352
Float Ops: 91570443
Integer Ops: 333001050
Hash Ops: 687507

RAM Score - 0MB: 0
RAM Speed: 6409 MB/s

GPU Score: 0
Direct3D11: 0 FPS
OpenCL: 0 GFLOPS
Novabench shows a message box: Error: There was a problem running this test. Please try again, or reinstall Novabench if it continues.

Disk Score:18
Write Speed: 21 MB/s
Read Speed: 92 MB/s

Host OS Novabench results:

Novabench Score: 1457
2018-05-18 2:10 PM
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise
CPU: Intel Xeon X5660 running at 2.79GHz
GPU: NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800

CPU Score: 944
Float Ops: 278204108
Integer Ops: 1466146752
Hash Ops: 993830

RAM Score - 49GB: 271
RAM Speed: 8041 MB/s

GPU Score: 211
Direct3D11: 17 FPS
OpenCL: 499 GFLOPS

Disk Score: 31
Write Speed: 118 MB/s
Read Speed: 123 MB/s
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socratis
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Re: 3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by socratis »

Virtual machines will never be as powerful as the host, especially on the video side. They use after all a virtual graphics card, not your host's real graphics card. Applications that have high requirements on the GPU (drawing, 3D, games, video) are expected to not work as good as on the real hardware, if they work at all.

You only option is to pretty much wait for improved graphics support. I have no clue when this will happen, or if it will happen at all.


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mpack
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Re: 3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by mpack »

I see several mentions of Direct3D11. In fact as you'll see in the user manual (section 4.5) Direct3D9 is the maximum level of Direct3D support currently offered. Apps that rely on higher levels will not run, or they may run and crash.
brock
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Re: 3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by brock »

Hmmm... Thanks for the replies, although I wish their content was more positive. Honestly, I don't care about the performance of the 3D rendering, just that it renders the scene so I can click on the objects in it. Kinda like an old CPU doing video compression, it won't do it well, but it will eventually do it. That's all I need. I guess it also doesn't help that I'm not entirely sure what 3D library is used in the app that I need to run, but I believe it's OpenGL. Oh well. It's not super important.
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Re: 3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by mpack »

In that case you should possibly turn off 3D acceleration entirely in the VM settings. That will force the guest OS to use software rendering only, with performance drops as you might expect.
brock
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Re: 3D rendering not working (Win10 64-bit guest, Win7 64-bit host)

Post by brock »

Thanks for the suggestion, but that didn't work. However, I did find a way around my problem that doesn't require a 3D scene render so I'm good. :)
Last edited by socratis on 22. May 2018, 23:05, edited 1 time in total.
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