MS Windows 10 requires secure boot - how to cheat it?

[Edmund Laugasson]

source: http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... a-reality/
further search: https://www.google.com/search?&q=windows+10+secure+boot

One idea is to virtualize also secure boot to cheat MS Windows 10 and make it possible to install it on machines without secure boot - could it be possible?
What kind of solutions would you suggest?

One scenario: host OS is GNU/Linux (whatever distro people like to use) and guest OS is MS Windows 10.

[socratis]

1. No, Windows 10 won't "require" secure-boot. They don't want it to flop.
2. No (if it did require secure-boot), you can't bypass it. That's the idea.
3. Even if somehow you could hack it, VirtualBox would not be a part of this, for legal reasons. Oracle has big pockets, but not for this kind of stuff...

[loukingjr]

Just to add to what socratis pointed out, nowhere in the arstechnica article does it state or even imply Microsoft is going to require secure boot. All it says is the policy may change to make a switch to turn off secure boot optional, leaving it up to OEMs. I can't see any OEM leaving out the switch and essentially locking out any customers that may want to switch to Linux. Their customers would just purchase PCs with the switch.

[Martin]

I read the press announcements, that MS will require secure boot in the hardware for Win10 preloads to get the Win10 logo.

[loukingjr]

I read the press announcements, that MS will require secure boot in the hardware for Win10 preloads to get the Win10 logo.

You can read that two ways, one way is that having it available is required to get the Win10 logo. That doesn't mean you couldn't turn it off.

It's the same as Win 8. To get the Win 8 logo you had to have secure boot available but Microsoft required there be a switch to disabled it in the BIOS. The only difference I can see is they are making the switch optional. It would be up to the OEMs.

[loukingjr]

Just another example from an article from ExtremeTech. First there is their very misleading title…

Linux’s worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems

in the very same article they point out…

Like Windows 8, Windows 10 will ship with support for the UEFI Secure Boot standard — but this time, the off switch (previously mandatory) is now optional.

All this is subject to change of course but it does seem in order to get a Win10 logo for mobile devices secure boot is mandatory. This also can change.

It's nothing but fear-mongering by the "press" at this point.

[mpack]

I find it hard to see how they could get that clause past competition authorities in the US and Europe. The Chinese would simply ban the OS of course.

[loukingjr]

The odd thing is they announced it in China.