Windows 8?

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Re: Windows 8?

Postby psyfox » 21. Nov 2012, 12:08

still have problems to install windows 8 rtm on:

virtualbox 4.2.4r81684

As started, the vbox says:

VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Certain guests (e.g. OS/2 and QNX) require this feature.
Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.


(yes, its enabled)

When trying to install w8 x86:

Your PC needs to restart.
Please hold down the power button.
Error Code: 0x0000005D
[...]


(yes, disable bit enabled, etc etc)

I know its a known problem. I'm here trying to help. So ppl should stop crying about a costless tool.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby Perryg » 21. Nov 2012, 16:06

VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Certain guests (e.g. OS/2 and QNX) require this feature.
Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.

(yes, its enabled)

Then something else is using it. Since only one instance of anything using VMX is possible you need to find out what and disable it. Hyper-v, some google apps, some virus software, & some debugging tools have been found to cause this.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby Grayghost » 22. Nov 2012, 18:52

I seem to have the same problem.... How do I find out what is using this feature and disable it ???
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby BillG » 23. Nov 2012, 05:40

That really has nothing to do with how VirtualBox works. That is purely a problem with the host OS and the programs running on the host. From the host OS you would look at what programs might be causing it and prevent one at a time from starting until you find which of them is locking VT-x.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby robatino » 24. Nov 2012, 01:36

saberman wrote:It does detect NX and passes it through. Otherwise the Windows 8 setup program would immediately say the machine does not support Windows 8. Instead, it loads for a while and then goes into a hard CPU loop -- or at least the VirtualBox executable does. I don't know how to tell if the VM is executing or halted waiting for something from VB and VB is in a CPU loop.

Below is a comparison of the output of coreinfo run in the host (Windows 7 Ultimate x64) and coreinfo run in a VM (Windows 7 Ultimate x64). NX is shown as available in both.

There are a few items that are only exposed on the host:
Hyperthreading
Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
Implements AMD MMX extensions
Supprots CMPXCHG16B instruction.

The guest has only one core whereas the host has two.

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AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
AMD64 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 2, AuthenticAMD

                  Host     VM
HTT                  *      -     Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR           -      -     Hypervisor is present
VMX                  -      -     Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM                  *      -     Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
EM64T                *      *     Supports 64-bit mode
                                   
SMX                  -      -     Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT               -      -     Supports AMD SKINIT
EIST                 -      -     Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
                                   
NX                   *      *     Supports no-execute page protection
PAGE1GB              -      -     Supports 1 GB large pages
PAE                  *      *     Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT                  *      *     Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE                  *      *     Supports 4 MB pages
PSE36                *      *     Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
PGE                  *      *     Supports global bit in page tables
SS                   -      -     Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME                  *      *     Supports Virtual-8086 mode
                                   
FPU                  *      *     Implements i387 floating point instructions
MMX                  *      *     Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT               *      -     Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW                *      *     Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT             *      *     Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE                  *      *     Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2                 *      *     Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3                 *      *     Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3                -      -     Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4.1               -      -     Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2               -      -     Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2
                                   
AES                  -      -     Supports AES extensions
AVX                  -      -     Supports AVX intruction extensions
FMA                  -      -     Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR                  *      *     Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTTR                 *      *     Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE                -      -     Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE              -      -     Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
                                   
CMOV                 *      *     Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH                *      *     Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8                  *      *     Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16                 *      -     Supprots CMPXCHG16B instruction
DCA                  -      -     Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C                 -      -     Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR                 *      *     Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR                *      *     Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR              -      -     Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE                -      -     Supports MOVBE instruction
PCLULDQ              -      -     Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT               -      -     Supports POPCNT instruction
SEP                  *      *     Supports fast system call instructions
                                   
DE                   *      *     Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64               -      -     Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS                   -      -     Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL               -      -     Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID                 -      -     Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
PDCM                 -      -     Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP               *      *     Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC                  *      *     Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE         -      -     Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
TSC-INVARIANT        *      *     TSC runs at constant rate
xTPR                 -      -     Supports disabling task priority messages
                                   
ACPI                 -      -     Implements MSR for power management
TM                   -      -     Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2                  -      -     Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC                 *      *     Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC               -      -     Supports x2APIC
                                   
CNXT-ID              -      -     L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS
                                   
MCE                  *      *     Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA                  *      *     Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE                  -      -     Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin
                                   
PSN                  -      -     Implements 96-bit processor serial number

Host                                                                    VM
Logical to Physical Processor Map:                                      Logical to Physical Processor Map:                                 
*-  Physical Processor 0                                                *  Physical Processor 0                                           
-*  Physical Processor 1                                                                                                                   
                                                                        Logical Processor to Socket Map:                                   
Logical Processor to Socket Map:                                        *  Socket 0                                                       
**  Socket 0                                                                                                                               
                                                                        Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:                               
Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:                                     *  NUMA Node 0                                                     
**  NUMA Node 0                                                                                                                           
                                                                        Logical Processor to Cache Map:                                   
Logical Processor to Cache Map:                                         *  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64
*-  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64    *  Instruction Cache   0, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64
*-  Instruction Cache   0, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64    *  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,  512 KB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64
*-  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,  512 KB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64                                                                       
-*  Data Cache          1, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64    Logical Processor to Group Map:                                   
-*  Instruction Cache   1, Level 1,   64 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64    *  Group 0                                                         
-*  Unified Cache       1, Level 2,  512 KB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64

Logical Processor to Group Map:
**  Group 0

I am having similar trouble getting either the 32- or 64-bit Windows 8 DVD to boot. Each displays the blue window on a black screen and then just sits there using almost 100% CPU. My host is Fedora 17 64-bit with VirtualBox 4.2.4. The output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is
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processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 15
model      : 127
model name   : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640
stepping   : 2
cpu MHz      : 1000.000
cache size   : 512 KB
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 1
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good nopl pni cx16 lahf_lm svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv
bogomips   : 2009.25
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

which appears to be similar to your CPU but with only one core. (The maximum speed of this CPU is 2.7 GHz, it was idling when I ran the command.)
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby saberman » 24. Nov 2012, 02:39

Host Hardware: Lenovo Thinkpad 201X
Host: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Guest: Windows 8 Pro

I am trying to get bluetooth working in the guest. I have connected the bluetooth adapter to the guest. That appears to work be cause when I start the guest the bluetooth adapter disappears from the host's device list and appears in the guest's device list.

I have enabled allow others to find this device.

I do a search for Bluetooth, click on settings and click on Add bluetooth device. The system searchs but cannot find any.

If I shutdown the guest and do the same type of thing on the Windows 7 host I can see both my cell phone and the bluetooh adapter on another machine and I can add the cell phone as a device.

Like wise if I do a search from my cell phone it will find the Windows 7 host. If I then start the guest and again do a search from my cell phone it cannot find the host or the guest.

What do I have to do to get bluetooth working in the guest?
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby scp » 26. Nov 2012, 19:28

I have a similar problem like robatino and saberman: No matter If I boot from Installation DVD or HDD, it hangs at boot with black screen with blue windows logo most time.
But I found a dirty workaround: If I wait for the hang, press Host+R wait for the hang and repeat this up to ten times, then Windows 8 boots. Once it is booted it works normal like any other VM.

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processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 4
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
stepping   : 3
microcode   : 0x10000b6
cpu MHz      : 3000.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 4
core id      : 0
cpu cores   : 4
apicid      : 0
initial apicid   : 0
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 5
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save
bogomips   : 5999.86
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate


PS: Host Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64, Guest Windows 8 Pro x64 and also x86, VirtualBox 4.2.4
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby Fillimerica » 28. Nov 2012, 17:37

Throwing my hat in the ring with the same symptoms too (as scp, robatino and saberman): No matter If I boot from Installation DVD or ISO x64 or x32, it hangs at boot with black screen with blue windows logo. However, unlike scp forced resets don't get me any further along. So it never gets to the start of the installation.

Using VMWare Player 5 on the same Windows 7 x64 Host (obviously not at the same time), Win8 installation and operation works normally.

Consistently, I get Blue window on black screen, no rotating dots, and brief CD-ROM activity followed by a blink of the HDD activity light in the status bar at the bottom of the VM, then steady state hang. VirtualBox.EXE @ 51% CPU and just under 50M Memory from Task Manager on Host. I have to manually power off the VM (Host+Q).

Attached is the VirtualBox log file.
Vbox-Win8-Log.zip
Win7x64Host-Win8x64-Hang on Install Virtualbox Log File
(15.46 KiB) Downloaded 68 times


Let me know if you need any specific testing done or more info.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby vb-boxer » 8. Dec 2012, 19:04

Win8-64bit installation issue with SATA...

Host: Win7prof-64bit with VB 4.2.4r81864
Guest: Win8prof-64bit

If default Win8-64 guest settings used with SATA hd controller, installation stops while 'expanding files' nearly 35%, see attached log:
http://on.yourweb.de/VBoxWin8.zip.
Installation can be fixed with choosing IDE controller with PIIX4 chipset.

Similar behaviour is shown if installing VistaUltimate-64bit guest with SATA hd controller, pls see this thread:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=52952.

IMHO there is an issue with emulated SATA controller for 64bit Windows guests!?
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby pc1oad1etter » 20. Dec 2012, 17:59

I just set up a new Windows 8 guest (Mac host) and my Chrome browsers pages repeatedly get scrambled. Imagine that you could take chop up a web page into sections and spin each part into a variety of directions.

I have a screenshot but I can't post
I don't see this on my Windows 7 guest, which is why I am posting here. Can anyone tell me what this is? (Or, better, how to solve it!)
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby Googler » 23. Dec 2012, 22:41

pc1oad1etter wrote:I just set up a new Windows 8 guest (Mac host) and my Chrome browsers pages repeatedly get scrambled. Imagine that you could take chop up a web page into sections and spin each part into a variety of directions.

I have a screenshot but I can't post
I don't see this on my Windows 7 guest, which is why I am posting here. Can anyone tell me what this is? (Or, better, how to solve it!)


I thought I was the only one with this problem. The difference is that mine shows up on the Windows 7 guest. This problem seem to affect multimedia (flash) pages rather than stripped down forums like this one. The only work-around I found so far is to go into Chrome's plug-in setup and disable flash. This will make the multimedia pages display normally, mostly. Every now and then, I can still see an occasional flashback to the scrambled pages, but only in a fleeting instance.

I'd love for someone to show us the way out of this doghouse.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby Smart James » 12. Jan 2013, 07:20

Despite people are saying that Windows 8 is not good as it is very slow but I am strongly dis-agree with them as I am using this OS and found that it is very fast as it has very less loading time. This is also a thing which is helpful to increase sales.By the way i forgot my windows 8 password and reset it with SmartKey Windows Password Recovery last Monday.
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby danno3 » 12. Jan 2013, 21:31

Regarding the vt-x/amd-v problem with 64-bit guests, I have a Dell Inspiron 530 where the BIOS does support hardware virtualization and it was confirmed running VMWare 64-bit guest check (more info at http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003945). What I found out that my BIOS (and I'm sure others as well) have a bug where awakening from hybernation/hybrid sleep/sleep fails to maintain the hardware virtualization setting. More info here: http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-8978. Dell has, as usual, abandoned support of its products, and has chosen to deliberately refuse to fix this BIOS bug (along with other bugs that have been reported - last BIOS update was in 3/09).
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby charge » 28. Jan 2013, 16:51

Has anybody noticed small defects on elements with rounded corners in IE10 in virtualbox?
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Re: Windows 8?

Postby borderer » 30. Jan 2013, 00:44

Re NX problem and "Your PC needs to restart..." error, I have just discovered that the kernel of my VB host OS, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, does not pass through the No-Execute Memory Protect setting from my BIOS, so the setting for the Windows 8 VM guest is ignored. In my case, the solution was to install a generic-pae kernel as described in Ubuntu Community website.

See ticket #11436 for further details.
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