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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby mpack » 1. Jun 2017, 09:08

The tutorial advises you on your display driver choices, as does this discussion topic. As far as I know the advice hasn't changed.

You understand of course that Win98 is not a supported guest, so whether the third party drivers you choose to install work or not is between you and the authors of those drivers, if you can find them. It will only draw a conversation here if it happens to coincide with the interests of a fellow user.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby Dragannia89 » 28. Nov 2017, 14:12

Are there any drivers available for Intel HD audio? Having some audio issues so I'm swapping around devices trying to troubleshoot but the Intel HD Audio just flat out doesn't work. I can't find a driver either for Win 98SE...
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby ghr » 4. Dec 2017, 22:05

Well, you wont find a T-Ford that runs on unleaded either :) OK, for Win98 your options are either AC97 (Intel, Realtek had drivers) or SB16 (or compatible)....
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby killrawr » 8. Dec 2017, 23:52

I was working on this problem yesterday Shared Folders / Clipboard Host<=>Guest

To transfer files, you don't need shared folders or networking. Can access the VDI file using 7-Zip (which is free) or PowerISO

If you could include this in your Tutorial, I think it would help other people too.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby AnrDaemon » 12. Apr 2018, 16:23

Dragannia89 wrote:Are there any drivers available for Intel HD audio? Having some audio issues so I'm swapping around devices trying to troubleshoot but the Intel HD Audio just flat out doesn't work. I can't find a driver either for Win 98SE...

You do realize that audio device inside VM is emulated?
Choose SoundBlaster16, it has native '9x drivers.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby ProENTITY » 28. May 2018, 18:51

to install win 95 you need the MS-DOS, right? in case, I can not go to D: \> !!!! which serves to start the setup! can you tell me some command to go to D: or some alternative method to install Win 95?
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby mpack » 28. May 2018, 19:04

This topic is for discussing points raised in the tutorial. It is not a general Win9x support topic. It would be best if you started your own topic if you want to have an involved discussion.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby ionoskarl » 28. Mar 2019, 22:50

Hi Denkster,

I can access the link because of firewall settings of the website, could you load the content on some external cloud drive like a google drive or a similar?

thank you in advance :shock:
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby socratis » 28. Mar 2019, 23:32

I had no problem accessing https://scitechdd.wordpress.com/ even though you quoted a post from 2014-07-03! In there it lists a mirror at "pastehtml.com/view/cgoq9vm39.mrk" which no longer works.

The links in that page are not working:
That page however lists the following as Registration information:
  • Name: CSCKnight
  • Serial: 0B5E-12B4-A8A4-0B
And what I found by searching (great invention, you should try it some time), is:
Do NOT send me Personal Messages (PMs) for troubleshooting, they are simply deleted.
Do NOT reply with the "QUOTE" button, please use the "POST REPLY", at the bottom of the form.
If you obfuscate any information requested, I will obfuscate my response. These are virtual UUIDs, not real ones.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby Johnye » 11. Jun 2019, 01:15

I installed Windows 95 OSR2 and Windows 98 SE using these steps:
- run "C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxManage.exe" setextradata "machine name" "VBoxInternal/USB/HidMouse/0/Config/CoordShift" 0
- boot from floppy/cd, fdisk, format c:, start install with "SETUP.EXE /p f" to force ACPI
- (win95 only) apply FIX95CPU.IMA after 1st reboot
- (win95 only) remove unknown devices in device manager and install USBSUPP.EXE from CD
- (win95 only) add missing TCP/IP protocol
- share C:\SHARE (accessible to host with \\guest_name\SHARE)
- install Scitech Display Doctor 7, change display driver to Nucleus, resolution to 1024x768x32
- delete "Check for SDD updates" from HKLM\Software\Windows\Current Version\Run

All is working OK for Windows 98 SE, however I got 3 problems with Windows 95 OSR2:
- 3 extra floppy drives appear in explorer as D:, E:, F:, then the CD drive as G: right after installation
- after installing SDD7, Win95 no longer shuts down, it simply hangs at the "Windows is shutting down" screen
- since Win95 doesn't have drivers for the USB tablet that simulates mouse integration, I tried the following: placing HIDDEV.INF and related files from Win98 in a folder and manually selecting HIDDEV.INF (does nothing), copying files and registry settings from Windows 98 installation (might have missed something, or the INF file isn't compliant with Windows 95, or it simply doesn't work):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\VID_80EE&PID_0021\INST_0]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\{745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\HID]
C:\WINDOWS\HIDCI.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\INF\HIDDEV.INF
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HID.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HIDCI.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HIDCLASS.SYS
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HIDPARSE.SYS
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HIDUSB.SYS

Has someone successfully got mouse integration to work by getting USB tablet to work in Windows 95?
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby luweitest » 12. Jun 2019, 01:55

I have some suggestions about the setup switch part.

I installed win98se before I saw the tutorial, so without "setup /p j" switch, but it runs fine without high CPU consumption. There is APM device, which works fine. I later tried "setup /p j", ACPI device installed, and it is fine too (certainly). Maybe Virtualbox has fixed that APM support problem. I am using version 5.2.30 on Windows XP.

As the screenshot(attachment) below, setup /ie /im /is /iv /nr could be added to speed up installation, and it seems to avoid one or two hangs|reboots|crashes during setup.
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby DarioBagi » 6. Jan 2020, 18:07

I recommend not to do any workaround if you have Win95 installed in 6.1.0 r135406 because that will smash the whole VM...better use that scale tool...it's not completely good to use but works
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Re: Discuss: Tutorial: Windows 95/98 guest OSes

Postby Ben321 » 11. Feb 2020, 10:23

@Technologov
I just tested this, on Windows ME (it's the closest tutorial I could find, as none were specifically for ME) and it isn't working when I get to the part about the display driver. I have installed the scitech display driver, and have tried to do what you say, but it still doesn't work. After selecting a 1024x768 supervga monitor driver for my monitor, and enabling the scitech display driver in its control panel, and after manually trying to set the settings to force it to 1024x768 with 32bits of color, and multiple reboots, it STILL DOES NOT let me actually let me select those resolutions and bit depths.

I am going to assume that your tutorial (written back in 2008) is no longer capable of working with the latest version of VBox (which is frequently updated, so the latest version is from less than a month ago). Therefore, I'm asking you to revise your tutorial, and test out new solutions, which will hopefully be capable of working on the current version of VBox.

Note that what I need for my project is Windows ME running at 1024x768 with a 32bit bitdepth. Nothing less than that.
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